Snowflakes in Hell

Apparently a few tavern owners don’t like the fact that Kansas eased restrictions on carry in taverns, even though it’s unlawful to be above the 0.08 legal limit and carry a firearm.  One has to wonder why they aren’t concerned about people coming into their establishment, drinking, and plowing into a family minivan on the way home.  Drunk driving is a far greater social problem than people with concealed carry licenses carrying while intoxicated.  It seems to me if we allow people to drive at 0.07, it’s unreasonable to suggest they are too intoxicated at that level to successfully handle the much simpler task of using a firearm should they need to defend themselves.

Sometimes the media can be fair to us.  They are very right about this statement:

Most of the time people don’t notice Jensen’s gun. That’s not uncommon, said John Pierce, a law student and computer consultant in Virginia who is a co-founder of OpenCarry.org.

“People are carrying pagers, BlackBerrys, cellphones,” Pierce said. “They see a black lump on your belt and their eyes slide off.”

I’ve often had people ask me why I carry, like it’s some kind of great burden.  In most cases, people just have a gut reaction to the idea.  It’s not that they are afraid, though some are, it’s more that they tend to assume “Well, normal people don’t do that.  Why would anyone want to carry a gun around with them?”

Reality is I find a gun to be far less of a burden to carry than a cell phone or a Blackberry.   For one, the gun doesn’t bug me regularly to pay attention to it.  It’s a passive device.  For two, I can’t count the number of cell phone clips I’ve broken by clipping it in doorways or againts walls.  I’ve had my Glock do the same, and I think the doorway is getting damaged before the Glock.  It’s made to last.  Thirdly, I don’t have to worry about whether my Glock is charged sufficiently to make it through the rest of the day, and I’ve never had to scramble around looking for an outlet because it went dead unexpectedly.  Of course, if the Brady Campaign gets its way, we’ll all be carrying around smart guns that barely work and has all the same burdens as a cell phone.

The electronics we carry around are quite a burden if you think about it.  A gun, comparitively, doesn’t see much day to day use, but if you do need one, you really need one, and I’ve always been one to err on the side of caution.

Hat tip to Eric for this incident in Holland:

At a fashion show to promote tolerance of gay people on April 30, a national holiday in Holland, celebrating the birthday of the late Queen Juliana, a group of ten Muslim youths dragged gay model Mike Du Pree down from the catwalk, beating him up and breaking his nose. A second model who tried to help out was also attacked.

Our gays can shoot back. If I see a bunch of violent thugs of a proportedly peaceful religion beating up on a gay guy in broad daylight on a public street, I can too.

Another good reason for Delaware to adopt right-to-carry.

Well, it’s issued to a retired cop, but I guess it’s a start.

… it’s the size of your sausage.  I can see the confrontation with law enforcement now:

Cop: “Sir, I notice you’re carrying a knife.  Do you have a sausage on you?”

Me: “Why yes, and I can assure you, it’s of sufficient size and variety.”

Cop: “I’ll have to ask you to show me the sausage.”

Me: “What, right here on the street?”

Cop: “If it’s of the size and variety to justify you having that knife, then you have nothing to worry about sir.”

Me: “Oh, it’s big enough alright.  A might bit larger than most people carry, I’d wager.  When it comes to sausages, I only carry around the best.”

Cop: “Well, they say it doesn’t matter how big it is, it’s what you do with it, and what you do with it better be cutting it up, or I’m taking you in for that knife.”

A fallen empire, indeed.  And it’s a pity, I think.

UPDATE: Bonus reaction from cop “Don’t play hide the salami with me sir!  Let’s see it.”

You’d definitely see a picture of these two guys.  I have to agree with Dave.  I’m not counting on anyone’s lack of shooting ability to save me more than enough time to return fire.

Wyatt points out a rather good article in Townhall about police shootings.  This stuff applies to anyone who has to use a firearm in self-defense.  Police aren’t the only ones that get subject to 20/20 hindsight by people who don’t know much about these matters, so go have a read.

Actual text of the bill is here.  Basically it allows you to verbally announce you’re armed to an attacker, allows a transition from concealed to open carry when under threat of physical force (not necessarily deadly physical force).  It also would appear to allow you to draw into the ready position under threat of physical force.  Based on a quick review of Arizona’s criminal statutes, it doesn’t appear to be unlawful to draw a gun on someone as long as you’re justified in using deadly force, even if you don’t have to shoot.  Arizona’s self-defense statute would appear to remove self-defense as a justification if you are responsible for escalating the confrontation.  So a question I would have is, if you draw one someone threatening physical force (not deadly physical force), and they don’t back down, then what?  They are threatening physical force, you’re threatening deadly physical force.  If you end up shooting him, do you lose justification?

First I’ve heard of this is from Dustin’s blog.  If he had succeeded in carrying out his mass shooting, any doubt this would have made national headlines?  Also of note that in most states, bars are gun free zones.  In Nevada, they are not.  Yet somehow, someone managed to think clearly and take action, at a place where we’re told that people won’t act responsibly.

And it doesn’t register as a blip on the national news.

According to Dave Hardy, Napolitano has vetoed two gun bills.  The first:

Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed legislation Tuesday which would have allowed individuals to draw their weapons in cases where a reasonable person would believe it is necessary to protect against the use or attempted use of physical force.

I have to say, I agree with the governor on this one.  Unless you’re justified in using deadly force, your gun should stay in its holster.  For situations like the one described here:

“You wait ’til the big 6-foot-5, 280-pound guy knocks you on the ground and incapacitates you before you can tell him, ‘I’ve got a gun,’ ” he said.

“If that big guy threatens you, the next thing is he’s going to hit you,” Pearce explained, at which point “it’s too late to say anything.” He said Napolitano missed the whole point of the bill.

There’s already force disparity defenses to deal with that situation if you have to use deadly force on someone much larger than you, even if the offending party doesn’t have a weapon.  Fists can be considered deadly weapons under some circumstances.  One reason I think carrying OC [self-defense spray] is a good idea is because it’s useful for getting out of a physical altercation where deadly force wouldn’t be justified.  While I agree with eliminating duties to retreat, allowing people to bring deadly force into a situation that has not yet escalating into that grave a situation seems like a bad idea.

The other bill Nepolitano vetoed was this:

Napolitano separately vetoed another measure Tuesday which would have made state-issued permits to carry a concealed weapon valid for the owner’s lifetime.

Little reason to veto this, since most state law enforcement agencies are monitoring criminal records of license holders and will revoke if you do something that makes you unqualified.  The renewal is just a hoop to jump through so everyone can feel better.

UPDATE: It seems I may be misunderstanding Arizona law here.  In Pennsylvania, we have no law against brandishing a firearm.  If you pull a gun on someone, and don’t use it, you’re not liable if the bad guy beats a retreat or backs down, as long as the circumstances that caused you to draw was a deadly force situation.  Folks are suggesting that’s not the case in Arizona.  If Arizona law does punish for drawing, but not shooting, then that would seem to be something that should be fixed.

UPDATE: After looking at Arizona Revised Statutes on Justification, I’m not sure I was misunderstanding it.  I have more information and questions here.

I first became aquainted with the knife rights movement at the annual meeting last year in St. Louis, and took one of their buttons.  I don’t see any reason why knives shouldn’t be considered personal arms, protected by the second amendment, and Pennsylvania’s right to bear arms provision.  Joe Huffman has a pretty good post up about this here.

Pennsylvania’s knife laws are, for the most part, fairly lax, but our state law prohibits switchblades:

Pa. C.S.A. 18.908. Prohibited offensive weapons.

(a) Offense defined.–A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if, except as authorized by law, he makes, repairs, sells, or otherwise deals in, uses, or possesses any offensive weapon.

(b) Exception.– It is a defense under this section for the defendant to prove by a preponderance of evidence that he possessed of dealt with the weapon solely as a curio or in a dramatic performance, or that he possessed it briefly in consequence of having found it or taken it from an aggressor, or under circumstances similarly negativing any intent or likelihood that the would be used unlawfully.

(c) Definition.–As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

“Firearm.” — Any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.
“Offensive weapons.” — Any bomb, grenade, machine gun, sawed-off shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches, firearm specially made or specially adapted for concealment or silent discharge, any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or otherwise, or other implement for the infliction of serious bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose.

There’s an exception for law enforcement, and for people who have complied with the requirements of the National Firearms Act for the firearms provisions.  State law allows for carriage of a knife as big as you want, as long as it’s not a switchblade.  The only problem is, there’s no preemption for knives, so local ordinances can apply.

It’s a silly law.  A knife is no more dangerous because it is actuated by a button or spring mechanism than if I can open it with one hand, but case law in Pennsylvania has ruled that a knife that can be flicked open by wrist action after releasing a lock is not covered by this law.

Except to defend against double murderers.

Ninth Stage commenting on my earlier post about interrupting dinner:

“I’m armed and so are dozens more here.”  Sounds like the opening line in a takeover robbery.   I’d be checking for a clear backstop in preparation for shooting the assclown before I heard another word.

Heh

Canadian authorities insist on pursuing charges against a man for defending his son from a grizzly bear attack.

“He was 16 yards away, actually, when I shot him. It’s not fun being attacked by a grizzly bear, that’s for sure.”

Lucas said he has fully co-operated with the investigation. He even rode by horseback three hours to his truck to charge his cellphone and call authorities about the death.

“They’re wanting me to become accountable for killing that bear,” he said. “I wonder who would be accountable if my son was dead or I was dead?”

You think the life of your kid means anything to government bureaucrats?  You’re dirt to them.  There’s a dead bear on their hands, and someone is going to pay.

I support open carry, and support using it as a form of activism, as long as people follow the “don’t be an assclown” rule, which I think most activist tend to follow.   But I do have to say, that if a bunch of people got up an announced to the whole restaurant that they, and everyone at the whole table were all gay, I’d be pretty pissy to have my dinner interrupted over someone’s desire to attract my attention with a big steaming plate of “Don’t give a shit”.   Same goes for gun people:

The patrons at Champps, an upscale restaurant and bar chain, were eating ribs and drinking beer on a recent Saturday when customer Bruce Jackson stood up and made an announcement: He was armed, and so were dozens of other patrons.

The armed customers stood up in unison, showing off holstered pistols and revolvers. Jackson said a word or two about the rights of gun owners to carry firearms in Virginia, then thanked everyone for their attention and sat down.

To me, this violates the “Don’t be an assclown” rule, and we shouldn’t do it.  Just sayin’.  This just makes people think gun carriers are kooks.

Pretty conclusive that states with right-to-carry laws have lower crime rates than those that don’t.

Keyboard and a .45 reports that the state is seriously backlogged, and can’t process the license applications fast enough.  Bad news for muggers, rapists, and thugs in Texas.  Hey, maybe Texas will catch up to Pennsylvania eventually :)

Some folks want to be able to carry firearms in National Parks.  Outfits like the Christian Science Monitor don’t want them to be able to, using the same pants shitting hysterics that were used to fight the concealed carry issue last decade.  Let’s not forget the Las Vegas Sun too.  Of course, the hysteria isn’t stopping at parks.  Carry on college campuses are making editorial boards wet themselves too.  Then you have guys like this arguing that “Handguns are like alcohol. They give men ‘courage’ they don’t normally have.”

That should be enough PSH for one day.

Because otherwise Coyotes will eat your children.

Thanks to The Real Gun Guys for pointing to this very informative article on ballistics from the point of view of a coroner.

This one hits close to home, since I live in this area.  Always a good idea to carry where you are legally able to.  This is one of the reasons why.  Robberies are a tough situation.  In most cases, the best course of action is to let it go down, and make sure to get a good description for the police, if the robbers are content to take the cash from the till and go. But robberies can go south quickly, so it’s wise to be prepared.  So far the places that have been robbed:

• State Liquor Store
• Subway sandwich shop
• Pizza shop
• Rite Aid pharmacy
• Hair Salon
• Dollar Store
• Auto Zone

This guy seems prone to tying people up.  Never a good idea to let the robber control the situation.  If he’s not content to get the cash and get out, draw and fire, because that guy is dangerous, and will kill you as soon as look at you.  Most of the places on this list are easy targets, but mom and pop pizza joints in this area are generally packing heat.  Someone willing to rob family businesses is someone willing to risk taking a bullet, and not someone to give the benefit of doubt.

Looks like there’s a movement to spread open carry in Delaware.  Looking over the site, it would appear people are successfully doing it.  A few years ago, before Delaware passed reciprocity, I had looked into whether you could get away with this, and conventional wisdom was you probably could in Kent (excepting Dover) and Sussex County, but were probably going to get nailed for disorderly if you did it in New Castle County.  I never tried it.  I’m glad to see that people are proving it can be done.

Now I carry in Delaware on my Florida license concealed, so it’s a bit of a moot point to me at this point.  I support the open carry movement, but I do not open carry myself.

I’m with Uncle on this one, but for me it’s no biggie.  Pizza Hut pizza just plain sucks.  It’s easy to boycott that which I wouldn’t eat anyway.

From this incident in California:

The officer was struck with the bat as he walked out of his office and fell backward in a daze, Dyer said.

As the officer tried to draw his firearm, the weapon’s magazine clattered to the floor, Dyer said.

The student with the bat approached the officer again, the chief said, prompting the officer to reach for a second firearm attached to his ankle.

Magazine disconnect safeties do not belong on guns which you carry to use in self-defense.  If the magazine drops during a scuffle, you want a gun that will go boom when the trigger is pulled.  Absent that, not much beats the old New York reload.

Hat Tip to Dave Hardy.