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Seattle Residents: The Starbucks Saga Continues

author Posted by:Bitter on date Mar 3rd, 2010 | filed Filed under: Anti-Gun Folks

If you are anywhere near Seattle, you should stop by the flagship Starbucks store around 10:30am and order some food or drink. Then maybe you should let the manager know that you think the people outside are nuts and you hope they don’t get involved in politics with those weird people lying on the ground.

Why are you Seattle folks feeling like a little Starbucks from the original location today around 10:30am? Because Abby Spangler just announced her next lie-in today. She’s outraged that Starbucks has refused to make a political statement on her pet issue. There’s also going to be a Brady press conference, where they will present their petition. So let’s make sure that enough paying customers speak up and just ask that Starbucks stick to coffee and leave the politics to the DC-based groups.

Interestingly, the Brady Campaign doesn’t even care about this enough to bother letting their fans know about it.

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tag14 Responses to “Seattle Residents: The Starbucks Saga Continues”

  1. SayUncle » In Seattle Said,

    [...] to hold an appropriately named “lie-in” at Starbucks flagship store in Seattle. If you’re in the area at about 10:30, you may want to stop by. And take a [...]

  2. Standard Mischief Said,

    “… 19 minutes ago via Facebook …”

    No, it looks like they just slept in.

  3. Bitter Said,

    And this post went up before then.

  4. beatbox Said,

    You should tell people NOT to show up at Starbucks open carrying. That is what Brady wants.

  5. Bitter Said,

    I would agree for this situation. That’s why I put a focus on what people should do – just go buy some stuff and tell the staff that you think the people outside are being weird, and you hope they don’t get involved in politics. If corporate folks check in to find out what happened and they report that paying customers just thought it was stupid, then that will make a much bigger impact.

  6. Call to Arms Seattle « A Geek With Guns Said,

    [...] a comment » And by arms I mean money. Snowflakes in Hell dropped a note letting us in on an anti-gunner plan to get Starbucks politically involved. So far [...]

  7. John Smith Said,

    The reason they are not telling anybody is because the brady bunch fans get their coffee at starbucks too. They do not want to get banned for obstructing customers. If I were there it would be a huge temptation to walk on them while carrying 10 cups of nice hot black coffee.

  8. If you happen to live in Seattle… Said,

    [...] Hat Tip to Snowflakes In Hell. [...]

  9. Mike w. Said,

    Yeah I’d definitely second the “don’t open carry’ sentiment. If there are a handful of crazy people lying outside I’d rather not anagonize them.

  10. Starbucks Continuing to Hold | Snowflakes in Hell Said,

    [...] agree. I should be clear we were not calling for any counter protest of Abby Spangler’s protests earlier. I was just asking people to patronize the local Starbucks, and perhaps express some sentiment that [...]

  11. Mike Said,

    More backlash from OC activism.

    Keep it up, guys!

    /sarcasm

  12. Arizona Rifleman Said,

    Mike: What about people like myself who OC because it’s more comfortable, particularly when bloody hot out in Arizona? Would my stopping by a store count as “activism”, even if I’m not there for any political reason?

    Why shouldn’t I be allowed to conduct myself in a lawful manner anywhere in public I choose? I can OC in the grocery store, on the sidewalk, in Wal-Mart, or in Starbucks. Why should I refrain from OCing some place where I’m not prohibited from doing so?

    Sure, I can see avoiding obvious political issues and avoiding needlessly antagonizing anyone and would stay away from any active protest site, but I fail to see how reasonable people OCing in public in normal circumstances in any way detracts from the public perception of gun owners.

  13. Mike Said,

    Arizona Rifleman – you can do whatever you want. However, if you make a point of going out in public for the express purpose of drawing attention to your OC firearm, then you’re doing more harm than good. Since that’s not how you describe your situation, then good for everyone.

    But OC activists are a thorn in the side of everyone – on both sides of the issue. They’re just more useful to the anti-gunners. Case in point: before Starbucks held its ground, OC activists got not one, but TWO coffee chains to ban firearms. Prior to OC activists being so helpful, you would have been free to go there and OC while having a cup of joe. Now that the OC activists had their fun, you can’t.

    OC activists are out there throwing the issue in everyones’ faces and forcing them to act, most often contrary to your interests. So yeah, I think that’s a horrible idea. Normalizing is one thing. Daring people to do something to stop you, and then being surprised when the do, is another.

  14. Drang Said,

    While we do have some activists, not actually that much open carry here in Western Washington. Of course, the climate here supports wearing outer garments pretty much year-round…

    Myself, I wasn’t really feeling it, but I was on my way to work at 10:30 anyway. So I took an extra break and went to the nearest Starbucks at the salt mines later that afternoon.