Comments on: Blogs Take the Blame http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:14:24 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Caleb http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47099 Caleb Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:58:59 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47099 Yeah, that's what I meant. Gee, thanks for the correction. Yeah, that’s what I meant. Gee, thanks for the correction.

]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Blogs, Emails, and the Internets http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47085 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Blogs, Emails, and the Internets Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:05:44 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47085 [...] would appear that Jim Shepherd heard us this morning and issued a correction about the source of rumors of Daniel Defense.  It was based [...] [...] would appear that Jim Shepherd heard us this morning and issued a correction about the source of rumors of Daniel Defense.  It was based [...]

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47083 Bitter Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:38:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47083 I am aware, that's why I'm posting about it right now. TOW published while I was still asleep this morning. I didn't want to post the statement last night since it hadn't gone out. I am aware, that’s why I’m posting about it right now. TOW published while I was still asleep this morning. I didn’t want to post the statement last night since it hadn’t gone out.

]]> By: Robb Allen http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47082 Robb Allen Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:36:30 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47082 It does appear that Jim has mad an apology about this. The Firearm Blog link above has it. It does appear that Jim has mad an apology about this. The Firearm Blog link above has it.

]]> By: Bloggers get the blame | The Firearm Blog http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47078 Bloggers get the blame | The Firearm Blog Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:49:51 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47078 [...] gun bloggers that I know were spreading rumors about Daniel Defense and I am annoyed that we get the blame. Related PostsNo Related [...] [...] gun bloggers that I know were spreading rumors about Daniel Defense and I am annoyed that we get the blame. Related PostsNo Related [...]

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47070 Bitter Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:15:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47070 I do believe you mean Outdoor Channel, the channel Michael calls home, as opposed to <i>Outdoor Life</i>, the publication. :) I do believe you mean Outdoor Channel, the channel Michael calls home, as opposed to Outdoor Life, the publication. :)

]]> By: Caleb http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47069 Caleb Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:13:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47069 The Sportsman Channel, Outdoor Life, and (maybe) VS. Network? I'm trying to think who else would be in that market. The Sportsman Channel, Outdoor Life, and (maybe) VS. Network? I’m trying to think who else would be in that market.

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47067 Bitter Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:49:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47067 Makes sense. :) Makes sense. :)

]]> By: Michael Bane http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47065 Michael Bane Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:29:35 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47065 Bitter-Heart-Of-My-Heart; Strangely enough, there are several things afoot in Gun Universe that I can't speak about. Suffice to say that in the broadcast world several networks are all locked in STEEL CAGE DEATH BATTLE for viewers, and that is bleeding over onto the Internet. My shows are all Nielsen-rated, and heaven knows I'm readily identified and visible on the Internet. Jim Shepherd is my friend for lot of years, but we are direct competitors... mb Bitter-Heart-Of-My-Heart;

Strangely enough, there are several things afoot in Gun Universe that I can’t speak about. Suffice to say that in the broadcast world several networks are all locked in STEEL CAGE DEATH BATTLE for viewers, and that is bleeding over onto the Internet. My shows are all Nielsen-rated, and heaven knows I’m readily identified and visible on the Internet. Jim Shepherd is my friend for lot of years, but we are direct competitors…

mb

]]> By: Gunstar1 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47060 Gunstar1 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:59:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47060 There was a post on my forum that quoted that same Savannah Morning News article about the furlough. No one that posted said anything about them closing for good. In fact one of the laid off employees said it is a great place to work and hopes he gets hired back soon. He said he was not holding his breath on that and will look for other work but loves the DD products and any future AR builds will probably have DD products as part of the build. There was a post on my forum that quoted that same Savannah Morning News article about the furlough.

No one that posted said anything about them closing for good. In fact one of the laid off employees said it is a great place to work and hopes he gets hired back soon. He said he was not holding his breath on that and will look for other work but loves the DD products and any future AR builds will probably have DD products as part of the build.

]]> By: DirtCrashr http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47055 DirtCrashr Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:27:27 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47055 I've heard of Daniel Defense and I'm a nobody. No complaints about prices out here in California - but Jim who? I’ve heard of Daniel Defense and I’m a nobody. No complaints about prices out here in California – but Jim who?

]]> By: Joe Huffman http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47049 Joe Huffman Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:38:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47049 Technorati indexs blog more frequently and completely than <a href="http://www.bing.com/" rel="nofollow">Bing</a>, Google, or Yahoo!. <a href="http://technorati.com/search/Daniel+Defense?language=n" rel="nofollow">They have nothing.</a> Technorati indexs blog more frequently and completely than Bing, Google, or Yahoo!. They have nothing.

]]> By: Andy http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47047 Andy Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:26:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47047 Saw it on Sig Forum last night, but none of my RSS feeds showed anything. Saw it on Sig Forum last night, but none of my RSS feeds showed anything.

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47046 Bitter Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:12:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47046 Michael, Be sure to let us know if you ever find out how this came to be blamed on bloggers. I can't even find anything in the forum posts that says they were going out of business. A few complaints about their prices, armchair quarterbacks making assumptions about cashflow, and well wishes to overcome a bump in the road were there, but nothing that could translate as a rumor they were going under. Not to mention, forums aren't blogs. Michael,

Be sure to let us know if you ever find out how this came to be blamed on bloggers. I can’t even find anything in the forum posts that says they were going out of business. A few complaints about their prices, armchair quarterbacks making assumptions about cashflow, and well wishes to overcome a bump in the road were there, but nothing that could translate as a rumor they were going under. Not to mention, forums aren’t blogs.

]]> By: Caleb http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47044 Caleb Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:04:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47044 I saw the one at ArfCom that you linked to, but that's it. I saw the one at ArfCom that you linked to, but that’s it.

]]> By: Michael Bane http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47041 Michael Bane Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:59:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47041 I'm a little puzzled on this myself. I heard the Daniels "rumor" from a company who's looking to hire some of the Daniels' employees. I called Jim Shepherd and passed along what I heard, but I DID NOT blog about it. I did mention to Jim that the Daniels Defense situation was consistent with what I had heard on the road last week at some of the other black rifle manufacturers. I've been blogging and podcasting since the NRA Show (where I "called": the top of the market) on the implications of the black rifle bubble "popping," mostly in terms of cancelled backorders, which every expects. My recommendation for individuals remains the same as it was 18 months ago...if you don't have an AR and mags, but one now! Michael B I’m a little puzzled on this myself. I heard the Daniels “rumor” from a company who’s looking to hire some of the Daniels’ employees. I called Jim Shepherd and passed along what I heard, but I DID NOT blog about it. I did mention to Jim that the Daniels Defense situation was consistent with what I had heard on the road last week at some of the other black rifle manufacturers. I’ve been blogging and podcasting since the NRA Show (where I “called”: the top of the market) on the implications of the black rifle bubble “popping,” mostly in terms of cancelled backorders, which every expects.

My recommendation for individuals remains the same as it was 18 months ago…if you don’t have an AR and mags, but one now!

Michael B

]]> By: Tam http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47039 Tam Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:03:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47039 I'm plenty familiar with Daniel Defense; we stocked their product 'way back in '05. I used one of their <a href="http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2005/10/boomsticks-ar-mods-update.html" rel="nofollow">Burnsed Loops on my main AR</a>. On the other hand, who the hell is this "Jim" guy? I’m plenty familiar with Daniel Defense; we stocked their product ‘way back in ‘05. I used one of their Burnsed Loops on my main AR.

On the other hand, who the hell is this “Jim” guy?

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47036 Bitter Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:46:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47036 Where are you reading these rumors, Caleb? That's the point of this post. Did you find the rumors floating around on a blog that Google and Yahoo haven't indexed? Where are you reading these rumors, Caleb? That’s the point of this post. Did you find the rumors floating around on a blog that Google and Yahoo haven’t indexed?

]]> By: Caleb http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47034 Caleb Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:43:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47034 I would say that the rumors of their demise are greatly exaggerated - I was just shooting one of their new DDXV rifles yesterday, and it's just a T&E gun. I would say that the rumors of their demise are greatly exaggerated – I was just shooting one of their new DDXV rifles yesterday, and it’s just a T&E gun.

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47033 Bitter Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:42:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47033 I think my problem is that I know Jim understands the difference between an industry rumor and an internet rumor. He also understands the difference between forums, blogs, and emails. Unfortunately, a huge percentage (if not an outright majority) of people he writes for in TOW don't understand these differences. So when he blames the blogosphere for things no one in the blogosphere said, it really does nothing but hurt us. Jim commands respect from the industry, so to see accusations like this consistently running in TOW, it's disturbing. You've mentioned trouble you've had getting industry folks just to include you on releases. This would be one reason why they would hesitate. I think my problem is that I know Jim understands the difference between an industry rumor and an internet rumor. He also understands the difference between forums, blogs, and emails. Unfortunately, a huge percentage (if not an outright majority) of people he writes for in TOW don’t understand these differences. So when he blames the blogosphere for things no one in the blogosphere said, it really does nothing but hurt us.

Jim commands respect from the industry, so to see accusations like this consistently running in TOW, it’s disturbing. You’ve mentioned trouble you’ve had getting industry folks just to include you on releases. This would be one reason why they would hesitate.

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/03/blogs-take-the-blame/#comment-47032 Steve Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:35:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12077#comment-47032 I am not a little irritated at the blogosphere being blamed for rumors. We are an easy target, it is kind of like saying "the internet did it", except us gun bloggers are relatively small group and we sure as hell know what each other are writing. I am not a little irritated at the blogosphere being blamed for rumors. We are an easy target, it is kind of like saying “the internet did it”, except us gun bloggers are relatively small group and we sure as hell know what each other are writing.

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