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	<title>Comments on: What the Chambliss Victory Means</title>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34669</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dropoff would be expected for a special election.  Numbers will drop off in the midterms too.  The winning side is the one who&#039;s numbers drop off the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dropoff would be expected for a special election.  Numbers will drop off in the midterms too.  The winning side is the one who&#8217;s numbers drop off the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34664</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Percentages can be misleading.

From the Georgia Secretary of State&#039;s website (http://www.sos.georgia.gov):
On Nov. 4, Chambliss received 1.87M votes of 3.75M votes cast. On Dec 2, he received 1.22 M of 2.13M cast. That&#039;s 650,000 fewer votes for Chambliss second time around, out of 1.62M fewer votes cast. Of course, Martin had an even bigger drop off, from 1.76M to 906,000.

A win&#039;s a win, and the percentage lead definitely increased, just not sure how much to put into it given that huge turnout drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Percentages can be misleading.</p>
<p>From the Georgia Secretary of State&#8217;s website (<a href="http://www.sos.georgia.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.sos.georgia.gov</a>):<br />
On Nov. 4, Chambliss received 1.87M votes of 3.75M votes cast. On Dec 2, he received 1.22 M of 2.13M cast. That&#8217;s 650,000 fewer votes for Chambliss second time around, out of 1.62M fewer votes cast. Of course, Martin had an even bigger drop off, from 1.76M to 906,000.</p>
<p>A win&#8217;s a win, and the percentage lead definitely increased, just not sure how much to put into it given that huge turnout drop.</p>
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		<title>By: Old NFO</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34645</link>
		<dc:creator>Old NFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew... I was getting worried there, but the results ARE interesting... thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew&#8230; I was getting worried there, but the results ARE interesting&#8230; thx</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34626</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Jade has his trolling motor all charged up.

It&#039;s a bit of making lemonade out of lemons, for sure.  But keep in mind that Obama left his offices open and fully staffed to help Jim Martin.  Both sides dumped a lot into this election, because it had a lot of symbolic value, and the Democrats lost, big time.  That&#039;s not to detract from the victories in 2006 and 2008, which I think the Republicans richly deserved, but it should give the Dems pause if they are wondering whether this was a real shift in the electorate, or whether Obama was merely an exceptional candidate.

Oh, and Jade, you go on and keep underestimating Sarah Palin, along with the rest of the elite, Republican included.  I think she&#039;s full of surprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Jade has his trolling motor all charged up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of making lemonade out of lemons, for sure.  But keep in mind that Obama left his offices open and fully staffed to help Jim Martin.  Both sides dumped a lot into this election, because it had a lot of symbolic value, and the Democrats lost, big time.  That&#8217;s not to detract from the victories in 2006 and 2008, which I think the Republicans richly deserved, but it should give the Dems pause if they are wondering whether this was a real shift in the electorate, or whether Obama was merely an exceptional candidate.</p>
<p>Oh, and Jade, you go on and keep underestimating Sarah Palin, along with the rest of the elite, Republican included.  I think she&#8217;s full of surprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Countertop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is georgia a Deep Red state??  

Maybe to the media, but not to anyone who knows anything about the state. 

As far as huge victory - well anything that ruins JadeGold&#039;s day deserve&#039;s to be celebrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is georgia a Deep Red state??  </p>
<p>Maybe to the media, but not to anyone who knows anything about the state. </p>
<p>As far as huge victory &#8211; well anything that ruins JadeGold&#8217;s day deserve&#8217;s to be celebrated.</p>
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		<title>By: JadeGold</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34621</link>
		<dc:creator>JadeGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, please run Palin in 2012.

Please.  I&#039;ll even send her money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, please run Palin in 2012.</p>
<p>Please.  I&#8217;ll even send her money.</p>
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		<title>By: JadeGold</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34620</link>
		<dc:creator>JadeGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see; since 2006 you have lost 12 Senate seats and almost 60 seats in the House.

A virtual political unknown takes on the incumbent Senator in GA--a formerly deep red state--and pushes the incumbent to a run-off.

And you&#039;re touting this as a great win?

Sheesh.  I guess you&#039;ve gotta make lemonade....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see; since 2006 you have lost 12 Senate seats and almost 60 seats in the House.</p>
<p>A virtual political unknown takes on the incumbent Senator in GA&#8211;a formerly deep red state&#8211;and pushes the incumbent to a run-off.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re touting this as a great win?</p>
<p>Sheesh.  I guess you&#8217;ve gotta make lemonade&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome from the people of the great state of Georgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome from the people of the great state of Georgia.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they don&#039;t -- she&#039;s a serious threat to the progressive agenda.  Nothing worse than a true believer who is likable and respectable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they don&#8217;t &#8212; she&#8217;s a serious threat to the progressive agenda.  Nothing worse than a true believer who is likable and respectable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34581</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked how Sarah &quot;She drug down the ticket&quot; Palin went down there and rocked the house.

The media really, really don&#039;t like her, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked how Sarah &#8220;She drug down the ticket&#8221; Palin went down there and rocked the house.</p>
<p>The media really, really don&#8217;t like her, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: mike123</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Georgia.   The NRA saved Saxby&#039;s arse.  They dumped a tremendous amount of resources here.  I got 2 orange postcards, 4 personal calls to vote, and a bunch of pro-gun literature.   They did not hold back.

To be honest, if the NRA and NumbersUSA had not supported Saxby, I would have sat out the election.  Saxby has been a little Bush-ite (big government, pro-Amnesty, pro-corporate welfare, DC insider).  From my other gun friends, they felt the same way.

Hopefully, DC is aware of the power of the gun vote.  Hopefully, the Republicans end supporting gun control candidates like John &quot;gun show loophole&#039; mccain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Georgia.   The NRA saved Saxby&#8217;s arse.  They dumped a tremendous amount of resources here.  I got 2 orange postcards, 4 personal calls to vote, and a bunch of pro-gun literature.   They did not hold back.</p>
<p>To be honest, if the NRA and NumbersUSA had not supported Saxby, I would have sat out the election.  Saxby has been a little Bush-ite (big government, pro-Amnesty, pro-corporate welfare, DC insider).  From my other gun friends, they felt the same way.</p>
<p>Hopefully, DC is aware of the power of the gun vote.  Hopefully, the Republicans end supporting gun control candidates like John &#8220;gun show loophole&#8217; mccain.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Filibuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Filibuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: More from SIH. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: More from SIH. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Navy Vet from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/12/03/what-the-chambliss-victory-means/#comment-34574</link>
		<dc:creator>Navy Vet from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Saxby Chambliss mention in a speech just this morning that he won&#039;t support Obama&#039;s attempts to &quot;tinker&quot; with the second amendment. That was one of the few times during this election season that I have heard a politician make any references to the second amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Saxby Chambliss mention in a speech just this morning that he won&#8217;t support Obama&#8217;s attempts to &#8220;tinker&#8221; with the second amendment. That was one of the few times during this election season that I have heard a politician make any references to the second amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Way to go Georgia &#8211; Call me Ahab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Way to go Georgia &#8211; Call me Ahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Georgia re-elects Sen. Saxby Chambliss to his seat, which is good news for gun owners.  At the link, Sebastian has a pretty solid run-down on what this means for gun owners and conservatives, and it could be good news - especially since in between the general election and the run-off, Sen. Chambliss improved his margin of victory to a landslide 13%.  Here is a quick hits list of the &#8220;good things&#8221; that Sen. Chambliss&#8217; win does for us: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Georgia re-elects Sen. Saxby Chambliss to his seat, which is good news for gun owners.  At the link, Sebastian has a pretty solid run-down on what this means for gun owners and conservatives, and it could be good news &#8211; especially since in between the general election and the run-off, Sen. Chambliss improved his margin of victory to a landslide 13%.  Here is a quick hits list of the &#8220;good things&#8221; that Sen. Chambliss&#8217; win does for us: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tkdkerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>tkdkerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurrah!  I&#039;ll have to catch Boortz in the morning to get all the wonderful details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurrah!  I&#8217;ll have to catch Boortz in the morning to get all the wonderful details.</p>
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