Comments on: The Genesis of the Show http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:52:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jym http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27765 Jym Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:01:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27765 I should note: Don't get me wrong, not all Mike V. supporters are like that. Some are perfectly nice/respectful/reasonable. It's just that a lot, much like Mike himself, aren't. I should note: Don’t get me wrong, not all Mike V. supporters are like that. Some are perfectly nice/respectful/reasonable. It’s just that a lot, much like Mike himself, aren’t.

]]> By: Jym http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27764 Jym Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:00:37 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27764 The thing I find most interesting is how quickly Ahab is condemned for being disrespectful towards Mike V., when Mike V. has been incredibly disrespectful towards those that do not share his views. While I can understand the feeling that two wrongs do not make a right, there's just something deliciously ironic about what basically amounts to the following exchange: Mike V. - "If you don't agree with me you're a coward and not a real gun defender! You don't do anything to help out the movement! You're probably a jack booted thug government thug in disguise! When the revolution comes I'll be shooting evil rogue gun grabbers like that!" More Moderate Gun Bloggers - "Damn, dude, you're crazy. Stop scaring whitey!" More Extreme Gun Bloggers - "How dare you call him crazy despite the fact he's been incredibly insulting to you! For shame!" The best part of it all is that the entire reason that people like Mike V. so ardently support gun rights is for defense; defense from the government, defense from criminals, etc.. Yet, at the same time, when someone defends themselves verbally by stating that you think he's crazy while he's outright calling you a jack booted thug sympathizer, you're then told you're being disrespectful! This is seriously some of the most amazing cognitive dissonance I've witnessed in awhile. Kudos, supporters of Mike V.! The thing I find most interesting is how quickly Ahab is condemned for being disrespectful towards Mike V., when Mike V. has been incredibly disrespectful towards those that do not share his views. While I can understand the feeling that two wrongs do not make a right, there’s just something deliciously ironic about what basically amounts to the following exchange:

Mike V. – “If you don’t agree with me you’re a coward and not a real gun defender! You don’t do anything to help out the movement! You’re probably a jack booted thug government thug in disguise! When the revolution comes I’ll be shooting evil rogue gun grabbers like that!”

More Moderate Gun Bloggers – “Damn, dude, you’re crazy. Stop scaring whitey!”

More Extreme Gun Bloggers – “How dare you call him crazy despite the fact he’s been incredibly insulting to you! For shame!”

The best part of it all is that the entire reason that people like Mike V. so ardently support gun rights is for defense; defense from the government, defense from criminals, etc.. Yet, at the same time, when someone defends themselves verbally by stating that you think he’s crazy while he’s outright calling you a jack booted thug sympathizer, you’re then told you’re being disrespectful!

This is seriously some of the most amazing cognitive dissonance I’ve witnessed in awhile. Kudos, supporters of Mike V.!

]]> By: CorbinKale http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27761 CorbinKale Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:16:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27761 I look forward to the discussion! I am listening to the 'guns in church' chat right now. Seems to be a decent show. I look forward to the discussion! I am listening to the ‘guns in church’ chat right now. Seems to be a decent show.

]]> By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27760 Kurt "45superman" Hofmann Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:09:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27760 Is it not a little puzzling that you can express amusement at the reaction to the gratuitous use of the letter "y," and then shortly afterward acknowledge that it was used as a deliberate and calculated discourtesy? Is it not a little puzzling that you can express amusement at the reaction to the gratuitous use of the letter “y,” and then shortly afterward acknowledge that it was used as a deliberate and calculated discourtesy?

]]> By: Ahab http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27754 Ahab Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:24:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27754 Of course I do - and I'm not going to hide that fact. Of course I do – and I’m not going to hide that fact.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27753 Sebastian Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:12:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27753 Eh... it's not just the letter y. I mean, I'm not saying you have to respect Mike, because he certainly is not in the business of respecting people who disagree with him, but it's a little disingenuous to suggest that calling him Mikey is just adding 'y' to the end of his name. You know that it means more than that. Eh… it’s not just the letter y. I mean, I’m not saying you have to respect Mike, because he certainly is not in the business of respecting people who disagree with him, but it’s a little disingenuous to suggest that calling him Mikey is just adding ‘y’ to the end of his name. You know that it means more than that.

]]> By: Ahab http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27749 Ahab Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:06:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27749 sadly, I meant "thread" not threat. sadly, I meant “thread” not threat.

]]> By: Ahab http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27748 Ahab Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:04:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27748 Yes, in fact we can. I fully expect Kurt and Sebastian to demonstrate that on tonight's show - it's funny how rapidly acrimonious the threat at War on Guns became all over the letter "y". Yes, in fact we can. I fully expect Kurt and Sebastian to demonstrate that on tonight’s show – it’s funny how rapidly acrimonious the threat at War on Guns became all over the letter “y”.

]]> By: Mad Saint Jack http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27746 Mad Saint Jack Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:48:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27746 Can't we all get along? Can’t we all get along?

]]> By: Call me Ahab » Blog Archive » Tonight’s Show - full disclosure http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/08/05/the-genesis-of-the-show/#comment-27735 Call me Ahab » Blog Archive » Tonight’s Show - full disclosure Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:43:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4451#comment-27735 [...] Additionally, at this link, Sebastian has published the Instant Messenger transcript which was the genesis for the show - we had been planning a show on extreme gun activism for a while, and it just sort of came together after that Uberthread at Sebastian’s. [...] [...] Additionally, at this link, Sebastian has published the Instant Messenger transcript which was the genesis for the show – we had been planning a show on extreme gun activism for a while, and it just sort of came together after that Uberthread at Sebastian’s. [...]

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