Comments on: Does the NRA Get a Free Billboard Too? http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:00:43 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jim In California http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26614 Jim In California Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:36:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26614 I contacted both of these outfits to ask if free space was going to be provided to the Pennsylvania Association of Firearms Owners or the NRA. Moreover PFOA is on the case and have links to this site. I would also suggest getting word out to http://www.theothersideofkim.com/ and you'll get gunowners all over the country to respond to this nonsense. Clear Chanel is everywhere as I see their stuff all over the Sacramento, CA area. Let's concentrate our fire. I contacted both of these outfits to ask if free space was going to be provided to the Pennsylvania Association of Firearms Owners or the NRA. Moreover PFOA is on the case and have links to this site. I would also suggest getting word out to http://www.theothersideofkim.com/ and you’ll get gunowners all over the country to respond to this nonsense. Clear Chanel is everywhere as I see their stuff all over the Sacramento, CA area. Let’s concentrate our fire.

]]> By: Mom's Against Guns Getting Free Ad Space http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26610 Mom's Against Guns Getting Free Ad Space Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:56:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26610 [...] advertising space to gun control groups they should offer the same to gun rights organizations. One of my readers already got a response back from the stating: To Dan: Thanks so much for your interest in the Public Service program at [...] [...] advertising space to gun control groups they should offer the same to gun rights organizations. One of my readers already got a response back from the stating: To Dan: Thanks so much for your interest in the Public Service program at [...]

]]> By: DJK http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26599 DJK Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:47:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26599 FYI: Here's my response to them "I see that we would be limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature. How is what is controversial decided? I just saw a billboard for Moms Against Guns. Story Here [i linked the Philly News article with the picture] I'd say that's pretty controversial. So, I'd just like to be able to show the other side of that...which is that guns save lives. They are sometimes wielded by moms who wish to protect their children from harm-doers. I am hoping we can get somewhere. " FYI: Here’s my response to them

“I see that we would be limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature. How is what is controversial decided? I just saw a billboard for Moms Against Guns. Story Here [i linked the Philly News article with the picture] I’d say that’s pretty controversial. So, I’d just like to be able to show the other side of that…which is that guns save lives. They are sometimes wielded by moms who wish to protect their children from harm-doers. I am hoping we can get somewhere. “

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26597 Jacob Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:42:11 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26597 Not of a controversial nature? I believe this supports my supposition that this is all politically motivated. Not of a controversial nature? I believe this supports my supposition that this is all politically motivated.

]]> By: DJK http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26596 DJK Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:36:42 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26596 Wait a second..... "limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature." What about their MAG boards??? Wait a second….. “limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature.” What about their MAG boards???

]]> By: DJK http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26595 DJK Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:35:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26595 Who wants to run with this? To Dan: Thanks so much for your interest in the Public Service program at Clear Channel Outdoor. This program is for 50l(c)3 non-profit organizations, and limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature. I have attached some information sheets regarding our Public Service program. Please let me know when you'd like to begin a campaign, and I will be happy to check space availability for you. Please also send me a copy of your proposed artwork. Many thanks - please call me anytime with questions. Anne Riney, Public Affairs Clear Channel Outdoor, Inc. 19320 Harborgate Way Torrance, CA 90501 310.755.7212 Ph 310.755.7355 Fx mailto:anneriney@clearchannel.com From: Webmaster - Clear Channel Outdoor Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:38 AM To: 'egnilk66@yahoo.com' Subject: FW: Information request from the CCO Website by Dan Thanks for your interest in Clear Channel Outdoor, I am forwarding your email on to the appropriate persons. Someone will be contacting you soon. Russ Russ Mason Corporate Director of Digital Services Clear Channel Outdoor - Los Angeles 19320 Harborgate Way Torrance, CA 90501 (310) 755-7260 PH (310) 755-7300 FX LEGAL NOTICE: Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this e-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately. From: webmaster@clearchannelOutdoor.com [mailto:webmaster@clearchannelOutdoor.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:52 AM To: Webmaster - Clear Channel Outdoor Cc: Rowell, Robin Subject: Information request from the CCO Website by Dan The following person has requested information via the Clear Channel Outdoor website: Ticket No: 22828 Requestor's Name: Dan Email: egnilk66@yahoo.com User's Area of Interest: All surrounding areas User's Location: Oceanside, CA, USA Phone: Company Name: Regarding: Advertising Product or Rate Inquiry Message: I have a message that I'd like to share with society. It's one that I think we could all benefit from. It's that guns are ok. They help save lives and protect the good guys from the bad guys. I believe this is a public service announcement. Can I get thirty free billboard spaces for 30 days each to spread this message? Maybe you can give them to a bigger name than just me...the NRA. Who wants to run with this?

To Dan: Thanks so much for your interest in the Public Service program at Clear Channel Outdoor. This program is for 50l(c)3 non-profit organizations, and
limited to messages that are not of a controversial nature.

I have attached some information sheets regarding our Public Service program.

Please let me know when you’d like to begin a campaign, and I will be happy to check space availability for you. Please also send me a copy of your proposed artwork.

Many thanks – please call me anytime with questions.

Anne Riney, Public Affairs
Clear Channel Outdoor, Inc.
19320 Harborgate Way
Torrance, CA 90501
310.755.7212 Ph
310.755.7355 Fx
mailto:anneriney@clearchannel.com
From: Webmaster – Clear Channel Outdoor
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:38 AM
To: ‘egnilk66@yahoo.com’
Subject: FW: Information request from the CCO Website by Dan

Thanks for your interest in Clear Channel Outdoor, I am forwarding your email on to the appropriate persons. Someone will be contacting you soon.

Russ

Russ Mason
Corporate Director of Digital Services

Clear Channel Outdoor – Los Angeles
19320 Harborgate Way Torrance, CA 90501
(310) 755-7260 PH (310) 755-7300 FX
LEGAL NOTICE: Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this e-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately.

From: webmaster@clearchannelOutdoor.com [mailto:webmaster@clearchannelOutdoor.com]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:52 AM
To: Webmaster – Clear Channel Outdoor
Cc: Rowell, Robin
Subject: Information request from the CCO Website by Dan

The following person has requested information via the Clear Channel Outdoor website:
Ticket No: 22828
Requestor’s Name: Dan
Email: egnilk66@yahoo.com
User’s Area of Interest: All surrounding areas
User’s Location: Oceanside, CA, USA
Phone:
Company Name:
Regarding: Advertising Product or Rate Inquiry
Message: I have a message that I’d like to share with society. It’s one that I think we could all benefit from. It’s that guns are ok. They help save lives and protect the good guys from the bad guys. I believe this is a public service announcement. Can I get thirty free billboard spaces for 30 days each to spread this message? Maybe you can give them to a bigger name than just me…the NRA.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26581 Jacob Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26581 Funny, because supporting the current hot-button agenda of the people you want to do business with is also an incentive. Funny, because supporting the current hot-button agenda of the people you want to do business with is also an incentive.

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26580 Bitter Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:55:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26580 No shit. However, a tax writeoff is what economists like to call an incentive. If the group isn't a (c)3, I doubt they would get 30 billboards. One or two, maybe. But not 30. No shit. However, a tax writeoff is what economists like to call an incentive. If the group isn’t a (c)3, I doubt they would get 30 billboards. One or two, maybe. But not 30.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26578 Jacob Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:43:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26578 Never attribute to a tax write off something that can be adequately explained by political payola. Interstate clearly does business with municipalities. See: http://www.interstateoutdoor.com/Vertacular.aspx http://www.interstateoutdoor.com/transit.aspx Never attribute to a tax write off something that can be adequately explained by political payola.

Interstate clearly does business with municipalities. See:

http://www.interstateoutdoor.com/Vertacular.aspx
http://www.interstateoutdoor.com/transit.aspx

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26576 Bitter Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:33:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26576 Jacob, we're clearly aware of political connections and the like. However, it is free in the sense that they don't have to spend money on it. The billboard companies likely get to write it off as a donation, since I'm sure that the group incorporated as a (c)3 even though they probably cross the threshold of political activity. Actually, their mere mention of election goals may well put them at risk. Of course, it's always hard to tell when reporters try to translate. Jacob, we’re clearly aware of political connections and the like. However, it is free in the sense that they don’t have to spend money on it. The billboard companies likely get to write it off as a donation, since I’m sure that the group incorporated as a (c)3 even though they probably cross the threshold of political activity. Actually, their mere mention of election goals may well put them at risk. Of course, it’s always hard to tell when reporters try to translate.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26575 Sebastian Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:31:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26575 I wouldn't doubt it Jacob. That city is thoroughly corrupt, and I wouldn't be surprised if Clear Channel and Interstate are doing this in exchange for "good relations" with the people who zone their advertising. I wouldn’t doubt it Jacob. That city is thoroughly corrupt, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Clear Channel and Interstate are doing this in exchange for “good relations” with the people who zone their advertising.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26574 Jacob Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:29:32 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26574 I doubt it's "free." Look through a who is who of the people behind MAG and I'm sure you will find a bunch of wealthy, politically connected people behind this. The story mentions Mayor Nutter supports MAG. Look to see if Clear Channel and Interstate Outdoors does business either with the city and/or state and if they need regulatory approval or are looking for public contracts or anything like that. I doubt it’s “free.” Look through a who is who of the people behind MAG and I’m sure you will find a bunch of wealthy, politically connected people behind this. The story mentions Mayor Nutter supports MAG. Look to see if Clear Channel and Interstate Outdoors does business either with the city and/or state and if they need regulatory approval or are looking for public contracts or anything like that.

]]> By: Logic-challenged “moms” get free advertising « Spiffmo http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26571 Logic-challenged “moms” get free advertising « Spiffmo Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26571 [...] Against the Constitution Guns get loads of free billboard space in Philly to promote their message that, ummm, violence is bad, [...] [...] Against the Constitution Guns get loads of free billboard space in Philly to promote their message that, ummm, violence is bad, [...]

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26570 Bitter Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:25:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26570 Well, I was using this topic as an example of how we might seek ideas to get people involved, not specifically billboard ideas. Although, if anyone has brilliant billboard ideas, and we could talk them into donating something, feel free to share. Well, I was using this topic as an example of how we might seek ideas to get people involved, not specifically billboard ideas.

Although, if anyone has brilliant billboard ideas, and we could talk them into donating something, feel free to share.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/21/does-the-nra-get-a-free-billboard-too/#comment-26568 SayUncle Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:14:01 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4139#comment-26568 I would probably call the local businesses that advertise with them and tell them you won't be using their products. I would probably call the local businesses that advertise with them and tell them you won’t be using their products.

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