Comments on: McCain Sleight on Assault Weapons http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:22:31 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mikee http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26629 Mikee Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:31:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26629 During the Texas primary, McCain produced a recorded phone message in which he promised (not indicated, but "promised") to nominate to the Supreme Court judges like Alito and Scalia (named in that order). For what it is worth, we here in Texas plan to insist he keep that promise. During the Texas primary, McCain produced a recorded phone message in which he promised (not indicated, but “promised”) to nominate to the Supreme Court judges like Alito and Scalia (named in that order).

For what it is worth, we here in Texas plan to insist he keep that promise.

]]> By: Harold http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26259 Harold Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:59:51 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26259 Sebastian: I take your points, and you are clearly looking at this more closely than I. I'd guess less than a half chance, but e.g. it doesn't sound like McCain would be able to apply an overt "McCain-Feingold" litmus test to a nominee (who would put up with that?). Although as noted by "the one who knew" he'll have to get them past a Democratic Senate, although Reagan got us Scalia and GHW Bush Thomas through as I remember Democratic Senates. Hmmm, the current Democratic Congress is significantly less popular than Bush (single digits, lowest ever recorded), although there's always the paradox that people dislike the whole but like their own Congresscritters. We'll have to see; I have a very strong reason to vote "anyone but Obama" (he wants to prosecute members of the Bush administration, which is a sure path to civil war), so I'll take whatever else I can get from McCain. Especially since I can remember Jimmy Carter and the fallout we're still living with from his one term. Sebastian: I take your points, and you are clearly looking at this more closely than I. I’d guess less than a half chance, but e.g. it doesn’t sound like McCain would be able to apply an overt “McCain-Feingold” litmus test to a nominee (who would put up with that?). Although as noted by “the one who knew” he’ll have to get them past a Democratic Senate, although Reagan got us Scalia and GHW Bush Thomas through as I remember Democratic Senates.

Hmmm, the current Democratic Congress is significantly less popular than Bush (single digits, lowest ever recorded), although there’s always the paradox that people dislike the whole but like their own Congresscritters.

We’ll have to see; I have a very strong reason to vote “anyone but Obama” (he wants to prosecute members of the Bush administration, which is a sure path to civil war), so I’ll take whatever else I can get from McCain. Especially since I can remember Jimmy Carter and the fallout we’re still living with from his one term.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26252 Sebastian Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:39:52 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26252 So you're suggesting that we put Obama in office so when the country goes to shit, the Democrats get blamed for it? Sounds like a great strategy to me! And how well did the Republican Revolution work after 1994? So you’re suggesting that we put Obama in office so when the country goes to shit, the Democrats get blamed for it? Sounds like a great strategy to me! And how well did the Republican Revolution work after 1994?

]]> By: the one who knew http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26250 the one who knew Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:35:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26250 I hate to break the news, but the president does not have the power to dictate who will be a supreme court judge. The president may suggest who the administration would like to be judge, but it is still up to congress to give the up or down vote. Remember how the dems were kicking and screaming during the entire process for Alito and Co? And that was when the dems were in the minority. As it looks now, the dems will enjoy a sizable majority coming this November and ANYTHING that McCain would want to do, should he become president, would be stonewalled. Unless, of course, it fits the dems agenda. The only difference would be that Republicans would get blamed for all the screw-ups. People in America don't understand how our Republic is set up to function. People think that the president in the US has ultimate power. Gas price too high, its Bush's fault, Katrina response too slow, Bush's fault, mortgage crisis- Bush's fault. IF McCain becomes president, the Republican party might as well pack up. The dem controlled congress will screw up this country like never before, and the Republicans are going to get blamed, because all Jo Blow on the street knows about is who is president. To make matters worse, McCain has a track record of "working" with dems. He will through us under the bus in the blink of an eye. On the other hand, if BHO becomes president, the dems in congress will be much more conscience on what kind of policies they pursue. They will no longer be able to hide the fact that they ARE controlling things. Half of the house is up for re-election every 2 years, there are a lot of blue dog democrats who do not want to be bothered with a gun bill. If they do, there is always 2010, only that time the republicans would have some ammo to use, just like in 1994. With McCain, well, we would not have that chance... I hate to break the news, but the president does not have the power to dictate who will be a supreme court judge. The president may suggest who the administration would like to be judge, but it is still up to congress to give the up or down vote. Remember how the dems were kicking and screaming during the entire process for Alito and Co? And that was when the dems were in the minority. As it looks now, the dems will enjoy a sizable majority coming this November and ANYTHING that McCain would want to do, should he become president, would be stonewalled. Unless, of course, it fits the dems agenda. The only difference would be that Republicans would get blamed for all the screw-ups. People in America don’t understand how our Republic is set up to function. People think that the president in the US has ultimate power. Gas price too high, its Bush’s fault, Katrina response too slow, Bush’s fault, mortgage crisis- Bush’s fault. IF McCain becomes president, the Republican party might as well pack up. The dem controlled congress will screw up this country like never before, and the Republicans are going to get blamed, because all Jo Blow on the street knows about is who is president. To make matters worse, McCain has a track record of “working” with dems. He will through us under the bus in the blink of an eye. On the other hand, if BHO becomes president, the dems in congress will be much more conscience on what kind of policies they pursue. They will no longer be able to hide the fact that they ARE controlling things. Half of the house is up for re-election every 2 years, there are a lot of blue dog democrats who do not want to be bothered with a gun bill. If they do, there is always 2010, only that time the republicans would have some ammo to use, just like in 1994. With McCain, well, we would not have that chance…

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26237 Sebastian Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:24:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26237 My money is on O'Conner not voting with us. That's more than just a gut instinct, as I have some good information on that count. But Obama has a roughly 0% chance of nominating a decent justice who will follow the constitution. McCain I think has a half chance. His nominating committee is filled with people who will find the kind of legal minds we'll like. McCain is quirky. It's going to be unlikely he'll find federal judges similar to his views, so he'll have to make trade offs. The politics of the situation means his trade offs are more likely to be in our favor. My money is on O’Conner not voting with us. That’s more than just a gut instinct, as I have some good information on that count. But Obama has a roughly 0% chance of nominating a decent justice who will follow the constitution. McCain I think has a half chance. His nominating committee is filled with people who will find the kind of legal minds we’ll like. McCain is quirky. It’s going to be unlikely he’ll find federal judges similar to his views, so he’ll have to make trade offs. The politics of the situation means his trade offs are more likely to be in our favor.

]]> By: SayUncle » McCain and gun bans http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26235 SayUncle » McCain and gun bans Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:59:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26235 [...] like he wanted his gun bill enough to vote to renew the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons. He has stated his opposition to the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons in the [...] [...] like he wanted his gun bill enough to vote to renew the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons. He has stated his opposition to the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons in the [...]

]]> By: Harold http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26229 Harold Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:39:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26229 Again, only a "moderate" squish would uphold McCain-Fiengold and any further freedom of speech restrictions McCain would like to enact, and to believe that such a person would likely uphold Heller is fatuous. Maybe yes, Kennedy did join the majority, but how many compromises did he force on the rest??? Republicans are about 50-50 on good judges, but I don't expect John "Alito is too conservative" McCain to be as good. Anyone want to bet that O'Conner (who Alito replaced) would have joined Heller? Maybe yes, maybe no, but something she did previously fairly strongly suggests no. - Harold Again, only a “moderate” squish would uphold McCain-Fiengold and any further freedom of speech restrictions McCain would like to enact, and to believe that such a person would likely uphold Heller is fatuous. Maybe yes, Kennedy did join the majority, but how many compromises did he force on the rest???

Republicans are about 50-50 on good judges, but I don’t expect John “Alito is too conservative” McCain to be as good. Anyone want to bet that O’Conner (who Alito replaced) would have joined Heller? Maybe yes, maybe no, but something she did previously fairly strongly suggests no.

- Harold

]]> By: Robert http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26199 Robert Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:07:51 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26199 Every year I go to the National Matches at Camp Perry I think it might be the last time they allow them to happen. Every year I go to the National Matches at Camp Perry I think it might be the last time they allow them to happen.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26192 Sebastian Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:14:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26192 Stevens and Ginsburg are likely stepping down during the next presidency. It would be <i>very</i> beneficial for us if there's at least half a chance of getting someone reasonably conservative. Hell, I'll even take a little liberal, as long as they are at least grounded in some kind of fealty to the actual law and constitution. The disaster would be if Obama wins, and Kennedy or Scalia die or step down. Neither of which is out of the question, as they will be eighty by the time the next president comes to office. Stevens and Ginsburg are likely stepping down during the next presidency. It would be very beneficial for us if there’s at least half a chance of getting someone reasonably conservative. Hell, I’ll even take a little liberal, as long as they are at least grounded in some kind of fealty to the actual law and constitution.

The disaster would be if Obama wins, and Kennedy or Scalia die or step down. Neither of which is out of the question, as they will be eighty by the time the next president comes to office.

]]> By: Mad Saint Jack http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/14/mccain-sleight-on-assault-weapons/#comment-26191 Mad Saint Jack Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:09:39 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=4000#comment-26191 If Obama replaces a liberal judge with a liberal judge not much will change. If McCain replaces a liberal judge with a halfway decent conservative that could change a great deal. If Obama replaces a liberal judge with a liberal judge not much will change. If McCain replaces a liberal judge with a halfway decent conservative that could change a great deal.

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