Comments on: Why Juries are Important http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:33:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/#comment-26098 Sebastian Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:20:41 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3984#comment-26098 BC, I actually agree she lost her shit, but put me on a jury and I'm not convicting her of squat. If she had beat the kid to a bloody pulp, that would have been one thing, but meting out some corporal punishment that results in no enduring harm.... yeah, it might be technically illegal, but not inappropriate under the circumstances. BC,

I actually agree she lost her shit, but put me on a jury and I’m not convicting her of squat. If she had beat the kid to a bloody pulp, that would have been one thing, but meting out some corporal punishment that results in no enduring harm…. yeah, it might be technically illegal, but not inappropriate under the circumstances.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/#comment-26097 Sebastian Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:18:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3984#comment-26097 Juries in England and Wales work pretty much the same way they do here, except for, in some cases, being able to convict someone with a non-unanimous vote of 10-2. In Scotland, juries operate by simple majorities, but if you can get a majority of your jurors to agree with you, you can nullify. Jury nullification doesn't really exist anywhere explicitly. It's implicit in how juries operate. Their word is final on matters of guilt and innocence. Juries in England and Wales work pretty much the same way they do here, except for, in some cases, being able to convict someone with a non-unanimous vote of 10-2.

In Scotland, juries operate by simple majorities, but if you can get a majority of your jurors to agree with you, you can nullify.

Jury nullification doesn’t really exist anywhere explicitly. It’s implicit in how juries operate. Their word is final on matters of guilt and innocence.

]]> By: BC http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/#comment-26094 BC Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:08:27 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3984#comment-26094 It's incredible to me that some of the people over at Rachel's place are actually defending the prosecution of the pensioner on, "Keep your hands off my kids!" grounds. Sorry, folks, but if both you and the police fail to control your kids, then the rest of society has the moral right to do it for you. If that means cuffing around Mommy's Dearest to prevent him from destroying property, so be it. It’s incredible to me that some of the people over at Rachel’s place are actually defending the prosecution of the pensioner on, “Keep your hands off my kids!” grounds.

Sorry, folks, but if both you and the police fail to control your kids, then the rest of society has the moral right to do it for you. If that means cuffing around Mommy’s Dearest to prevent him from destroying property, so be it.

]]> By: tjbbpgob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/#comment-26092 tjbbpgob Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:26:52 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3984#comment-26092 Don't they have jury nullification in jolly olde england? Small "e" intended, as they have become a very small "e", and are we going to have to go over and save them just from themselves this time? Don’t they have jury nullification in jolly olde england? Small “e” intended, as they have become a very small “e”, and are we going to have to go over and save them just from themselves this time?

]]> By: RAH http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/07/11/why-juries-are-important/#comment-26083 RAH Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:25:03 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3984#comment-26083 The law only works when civil society is working. Once civil society breaks down and the law protects the lawbreakers, then the law is an ass. I have read of several caes of JV extreme vandalism and no response from the police until an adult has had enough and attempts to enact justice. See this incident http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2381887.0.then_he_snapped.php The law only works when civil society is working. Once civil society breaks down and the law protects the lawbreakers, then the law is an ass. I have read of several caes of JV extreme vandalism and no response from the police until an adult has had enough and attempts to enact justice.

See this incident http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2381887.0.then_he_snapped.php

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