Comments on: A Self-Defense No No http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:31:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: B Smith http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23387 B Smith Thu, 15 May 2008 08:25:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23387 Well, no, they actually don't give a damn about your child's life, or yours, or anyone else's. That's why they have the scintillating system that rations medical care,regardless of need or resources. The most curious thing about this, to me, is that, "Lucas was part of a hunting party...", and yet one of the charges against him was, "failing to ensure a firearm in a wildland provincial park was unloaded and fully encased". I'll just bet that hunting up in Canada is quite an experience. Well, no, they actually don’t give a damn about your child’s life, or yours, or anyone else’s. That’s why they have the scintillating system that rations medical care,regardless of need or resources.
The most curious thing about this, to me, is that, “Lucas was part of a hunting party…”, and yet one of the charges against him was, “failing to ensure a firearm in a wildland provincial park was unloaded and fully encased”.
I’ll just bet that hunting up in Canada is quite an experience.

]]> By: Typical Enviro-whackos « Firearms & Freedom http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23244 Typical Enviro-whackos « Firearms & Freedom Tue, 13 May 2008 03:30:37 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23244 [...] Hat tip Snowflakes in Hell  [...] [...] Hat tip Snowflakes in Hell  [...]

]]> By: The Don http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23238 The Don Tue, 13 May 2008 02:38:11 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23238 Six months to collect evidence against this man that was protecting his son from an attack is ludicrous. Hell they don't spend that much time on the average murder of a citizen. Talk about ways to protect yourself from bear attacks by education, get serious, this bear was on the attack according to the father. It is similar to everything else in Canada, if you are being beat, robbed, shot, raped you cannot protect yourself because you will be charged if you defend yourself. It will have to get a lot worse before the people will finally challenge these granola crunching commies on a different playing field. We will have to hand out pamphlets to the granola crunching beurocrats on how to protect themselves. Six months to collect evidence against this man that was protecting his son from an attack is ludicrous. Hell they don’t spend that much time on the average murder of a citizen. Talk about ways to protect yourself from bear attacks by education, get serious, this bear was on the attack according to the father. It is similar to everything else in Canada, if you are being beat, robbed, shot, raped you cannot protect yourself because you will be charged if you defend yourself. It will have to get a lot worse before the people will finally challenge these granola crunching commies on a different playing field. We will have to hand out pamphlets to the granola crunching beurocrats on how to protect themselves.

]]> By: Tom http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23226 Tom Mon, 12 May 2008 20:20:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23226 A shovel?? I buried a St Bernard once - I sure wouldn't want to dig a hole big enough for a gizzly! A shovel?? I buried a St Bernard once - I sure wouldn’t want to dig a hole big enough for a gizzly!

]]> By: Jim W http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23219 Jim W Mon, 12 May 2008 17:54:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23219 Yeah I don't understand why he told them. When a bear falls in the woods, no one is going to hear it. If there were people around to hear it, it wouldn't be grizzly country, would it? Yeah I don’t understand why he told them. When a bear falls in the woods, no one is going to hear it. If there were people around to hear it, it wouldn’t be grizzly country, would it?

]]> By: JJR http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23217 JJR Mon, 12 May 2008 17:33:35 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23217 The Canadian Outdoor Heritage Alliance has published critical articles about similar incidents (wildlife killing hikers, etc) in their newsletter. http://www.coha.net/ ...they're not happy about their own government's policies either. The Canadian Outdoor Heritage Alliance has published critical articles about similar incidents (wildlife killing hikers, etc) in their newsletter.

http://www.coha.net/

…they’re not happy about their own government’s policies either.

]]> By: Rustmeister http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23208 Rustmeister Mon, 12 May 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23208 I think the right course of action would have involved a shovel and silence. I think the right course of action would have involved a shovel and silence.

]]> By: Matt http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23207 Matt Mon, 12 May 2008 15:54:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23207 His mistake was calling the authorities and trying to do the right thing. Bureaucrats do not care about you. They care about what they control and how to enforce it. Only carrying out their mission can they justify themselves. If their job is bear protection, standing up for the bears is what they will do. Even while the bear is munching on your kid's leg. "He must be hungry due to our encroachment on his habitat! Let's help him home gently once he's done.". Your kid's leg does not enter into the equation. You ever wonder if there was a fledging Mammoth Preservation Board during Neolithic times? Og standing there thumping, "Mammoth good, our rocks bad. Save Mammoth!" while the glaciers retreated. Pissot (how appropriate) wasn't there. If I'm carrying a gun and I'm attacking in the woods by anything with four legs and sharp claws/teeth, I'm getting home, letting the adrenaline wear off, hug my kids for a couple days and then consult a lawyer before I dial a single number. The old adage, "If you shoot a bear in the woods, does anyone else know?". In Canada, the answer is "No, unless you tell them.". Remember, in Canada it is unlawful for you to use force to defend yourself in your own home unless faced with a unquestionable threat to your life. And even then, they still might charge you. Things have not improved in the time since I left. His mistake was calling the authorities and trying to do the right thing. Bureaucrats do not care about you. They care about what they control and how to enforce it. Only carrying out their mission can they justify themselves. If their job is bear protection, standing up for the bears is what they will do. Even while the bear is munching on your kid’s leg. “He must be hungry due to our encroachment on his habitat! Let’s help him home gently once he’s done.”. Your kid’s leg does not enter into the equation.

You ever wonder if there was a fledging Mammoth Preservation Board during Neolithic times? Og standing there thumping, “Mammoth good, our rocks bad. Save Mammoth!” while the glaciers retreated.

Pissot (how appropriate) wasn’t there. If I’m carrying a gun and I’m attacking in the woods by anything with four legs and sharp claws/teeth, I’m getting home, letting the adrenaline wear off, hug my kids for a couple days and then consult a lawyer before I dial a single number.

The old adage, “If you shoot a bear in the woods, does anyone else know?”. In Canada, the answer is “No, unless you tell them.”.

Remember, in Canada it is unlawful for you to use force to defend yourself in your own home unless faced with a unquestionable threat to your life. And even then, they still might charge you. Things have not improved in the time since I left.

]]> By: Laughingdog http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/05/12/a-self-defense-no-no/#comment-23193 Laughingdog Mon, 12 May 2008 14:39:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3465#comment-23193 There's a quote later in the article that reinforces the truth that animal rights activists consider the lives of animals to be more precious than the lives of people. "The executive director of Defenders of Wildlife Canada applauded the decision to lay charges. Jim Pissot said he is encouraged to see the province doing its due diligence to protect the species. "It seems . . . this person could have taken a number of alternate actions to protect his safety, and shooting the bear was unnecessary," Pissot said. "We likely have fewer than 320 bears in the province outside of parks. Every single bear is critical at this point."" Bears are critical, but children aren't. Hell, you can't throw a rock without hitting some kid somewhere, so screw them. There’s a quote later in the article that reinforces the truth that animal rights activists consider the lives of animals to be more precious than the lives of people.

“The executive director of Defenders of Wildlife Canada applauded the decision to lay charges. Jim Pissot said he is encouraged to see the province doing its due diligence to protect the species.

“It seems . . . this person could have taken a number of alternate actions to protect his safety, and shooting the bear was unnecessary,” Pissot said. “We likely have fewer than 320 bears in the province outside of parks. Every single bear is critical at this point.”"

Bears are critical, but children aren’t. Hell, you can’t throw a rock without hitting some kid somewhere, so screw them.

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