Meat: It’s dead and delicious!

How come animals do not have rights? Because they do not have ‘intelligence’? If we have intelligence, then why are we hunting in the first place? If we hunt based on intelligence, then you will agree that a pig has greater rights than George W. Bush.

Moreover, since animals do not have rights, then they can be slaughtered; all animals, including cats and dogs, and why not! You should not criticize the Chinese and the Korean for eating dog or cat meat. I have seen dogs slaughtered in the streets of Beijing. Hang them up by a rope and clobber them to death. Or cats held by the tail and slammed against the floor. That’s for food!! So natural, as per your definition.

Want to see how cats are slaughtered? Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_l11sRXVM

It’s so natural !!Just like the hunters you support, huh?

Slavery was entirely a human institution. It is not a natural institution, as predator-prey relationship are. We are not evolved to practice slavery, as we are to eat meat. The assertion that humans are responsible for most species extinction is just silly. Humans have only been around for about 200,000 years, and most species have come and gone long before we ever got here. Species extinction is part of nature too, and humans are not immune from that process.

Human interference is not necessary for animals to survive. Nature takes care on its own. Most of the species that went extinct were because of human interference. nature knows how to get to equilibrium.
If you still believe in hunting, so be it. I won’t be surprised if you are also a religious person brought up into believing that humans are “superior” and have the right to subjugate all other species.

In a civilized society, we don’t need guns to begin with. But this is America, and we just don’t care.

If you fence in an animal on a 10,000 acre preserve, particularly if that animal has wings and can fly, I don’t really see the problem. Corralling an animal so the animal has no chance would be unsportsmanlike, and I would have no problem restricting this type of hunting, but that’s not what’s going on here. HSUS wants to ban hunting on any property that’s fenced in, no matter what you’re hunting. Actually, HSUS just wants to ban hunting, and this is just an incremental step that they think they can get away with.

Hunting is an important part of wildlife management. You may not want to believe that, but it is. Hunters contribute billions of dollars annually to wildlife conservation, and fund most of the wildlife research and management through the payment of taxes on guns and ammunition, through hunting licenses, and through hunting organizations that promote conservation and management. The alternative is out of control game populations that either starve to death, or end up in fatal confrontations with humans through other means. Giving that, I don’t see why so many people have a problem with hunting, unless they are simply intent on imposing their viewpoints and morality on others.

I get my proteins from vegetable sources. Don’t need to kill an animal to feed myself. I guess we are educated and civilized enough to realize that.

Hunting and perfectly natural? It’s an oxymoron. Maybe it’s natural for you based on the community you grew up.

And as for whether I hunt cats or dogs… I am actually not a hunter, so the answer is no. But I support the right of people to hunt. The reason we don’t hunt cats and dogs is because they are pets, and because humans don’t hunt other predators (predator meat seems to taste bad to humans), but some people keep rabbits as pets, and some people also hunt rabbits. Some of that behavior can’t be explained, but my understanding from people who do hunt is that predator meat just doesn’t taste that good. Except for bear, apparently, but bears are only occasionally predators.

Humans have acted as part of the food chain throughout our evolutionary history. I have no issue with humans who choose not to hunt, or who choose to forgo eating meat or animal products. My own sister is vegetarian, as is my ex-girlfriend, and I have no issue. But I don’t accept that human hunting is any more cruel or less natural than any other predator hunting. Meat is an excellent source of protein and other nutrients, which humans have used through millennia to power our large brains, which is really our only evolutionary advantage. Physiologically, we’re piss poor predators. Our tool making ability is the only thing that puts us at the top of the food chain.

The wolf hunting a deer needs it to survive; we humans don’t. We humans know that the animal is put through torture and cruelty; the wolf doesn’t.

You said … “Given the choice…”…is the animal being hunted given a choice in he first place? Did the animal choose to be gunned down?

If anyone is interested, start he and scroll down through the stories to learn what they are doing.

Same thing has taken place in Idaho and Oregon. Idaho has been successful so far in protecting their rights but recently Oregon just banned it.

2nd - Pennsylvania has some great hunting preserves. I’ve been wanting to go hunt Dall Sheep there for some time.

If not, then why not?

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