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Well, It’s Hillary

author Posted by:Sebastian on date Apr 22nd, 2008 | filed Filed under: 2008 Election

Now it’s just a matter of how badly she beats Obama.  Right now she’s leading by 10% points, so this is a very very bad night for Barack Obama.  I think we’re looking at a convention battle.

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tag7 Responses to “Well, It’s Hillary”

  1. Brad Said,

    Oh, I can’t wait until the Democratic National Convention turns into the Thunderdome. Two candidates enter! One candidate leaves!

    Barack Obama! Hillary Clinton! Whose cuisine will reign supreme!??!?!

    I’m getting giddy just thinking about it.

  2. Chris Byrne Said,

    Bad for them, good for us.

  3. Guav Said,

    It’s actually not a bad night for Obama—it was always known and expected that Hillary would win PA. But it appears that she didn’t win by quite as much as was expected.

  4. Rustmeister Said,

    Yeah, this is gonna be better than ‘68!

    Not that I remember ‘68, or anything….

  5. Phoronus Said,

    It was actually a great night for Obama. He cut her PA popular vote lead by half, bled her dry financially and kept his basically insurmountable delegate lead. And this is with some people flipping out about the ‘bitter’ comment. Yeah, he didn’t ‘win’, per se, but it wasn’t expected that he would. The Dem’s process is proportional, so ‘wins’ really don’t matter, they just make for nice headlines. Hillary isn’t going to be able to pull the 70%+ wins she needs in the remaining states. Not to mention the ‘being broke’ thing.

  6. Sebastian Said,

    I wouldn’t say it’s a great night for Obama. Even if he wins the nomination, and I think it’s likely that he will, he can’t win the presidency without Pennsylvania and Ohio, and in both those states he’s likely to get beat by John McCain. What last night demonstrated was that Obama isn’t a viable candidate in one of the most important battleground states.

  7. Phoronus Said,

    You raise a good point. I do disagree with the conclusion. Losing PA 55-45 isn’t exactly a crushing blow to Obama, even in the general. A 10% loss looks competitive to me. Especially when many of her voters will go to him when he actually has the nomination. Add to that the diminishing/wearing out of some of the current ’scandals’ that are pointed at him and I think he has a fine chance in November. From everything I’ve seen, I believe that he’ll cinch the nomination (which is pretty much a mathmatical certainty) and win the general election. I believe he’s got a much better chance against McCain than Clinton does (though whether that’s a good thing or not is up for debate).

    Though, I do agree the primary race may go to the convention.