Comments on: Mac Gone Mainstream http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:15:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Brad http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21390 Brad Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:08:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21390 Cocoa is so much derived from OpenStep that most of the objects in the API are pre-fixed with "NS". Cocoa is so much derived from OpenStep that most of the objects in the API are pre-fixed with “NS”.

]]> By: rightwingprof http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21384 rightwingprof Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:23:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21384 I've got an old NeXT machine out in the garage. I've got a VAX out there, too. Makes a great plant stand. I’ve got an old NeXT machine out in the garage. I’ve got a VAX out there, too. Makes a great plant stand.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21354 Sebastian Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:23:45 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21354 Isn't Cocoa derived from Openstep? Isn’t Cocoa derived from Openstep?

]]> By: Sigivald http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21352 Sigivald Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:04:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21352 A jazzed-up NeXTStep with a full set of MacOS APIs? Carbon ain't exactly NeXT stuff, and hell, if NeXTStep had had Cocoa it might have had a chance... (I'm only enough of a geek to have a Mac Cube, which is too slow to be useful. As the fastest NeXT cube, IIRC, was a 33mhz 68040, I'll pass. I don't run my Quadra 700 either, for the same reason.) (I'm also glad I'm not a True Believer, despite having used Macs since System 6 [alongside DOS and then Windows and since '94 or so, unix]; I got a Mini right before the Intel switch, and I think it's great, and that it's great that people buy them. Now my Main Mac is a Core2 iMac, and it's also great. OS bigots confuse me.) A jazzed-up NeXTStep with a full set of MacOS APIs?

Carbon ain’t exactly NeXT stuff, and hell, if NeXTStep had had Cocoa it might have had a chance…

(I’m only enough of a geek to have a Mac Cube, which is too slow to be useful. As the fastest NeXT cube, IIRC, was a 33mhz 68040, I’ll pass. I don’t run my Quadra 700 either, for the same reason.)

(I’m also glad I’m not a True Believer, despite having used Macs since System 6 [alongside DOS and then Windows and since '94 or so, unix]; I got a Mini right before the Intel switch, and I think it’s great, and that it’s great that people buy them. Now my Main Mac is a Core2 iMac, and it’s also great.

OS bigots confuse me.)

]]> By: Murdoc http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21346 Murdoc Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:34:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21346 When that Mac Mini thing came out I asked a Mac-loving friend of mine what he thought about it...and he went off ranting and raving about how terrible of an idea it was. He was upset that Macs were going to be so affordable, even though they were lower-end. I asked if a budget PC with all of the Macs supposed stability and superiority wasn't a good thing, and if it wouldn't perhaps open the Mac market up by convincing some to step up to top-line Macs. He would have none of it. After a long discussion, I came to the conclusion that he was mere a Mac Elitist who hated to see the "masses" be able to afford a Mac of any sort. When that Mac Mini thing came out I asked a Mac-loving friend of mine what he thought about it…and he went off ranting and raving about how terrible of an idea it was. He was upset that Macs were going to be so affordable, even though they were lower-end.

I asked if a budget PC with all of the Macs supposed stability and superiority wasn’t a good thing, and if it wouldn’t perhaps open the Mac market up by convincing some to step up to top-line Macs. He would have none of it.

After a long discussion, I came to the conclusion that he was mere a Mac Elitist who hated to see the “masses” be able to afford a Mac of any sort.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21345 Sebastian Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:01:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21345 *bow* I am not worthy. *bow* I am not worthy.

]]> By: Tam http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21344 Tam Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:59:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21344 I bought a color one off TD. It is totally awesome. And by awesome, I mean sweet. I bought a color one off TD. It is totally awesome. And by awesome, I mean sweet.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21342 Sebastian Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:39:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21342 I did at one point. I have cubes in my attic, but whether they still work or not I don't know. I'm doubtful. The hight of next geekness is having a color next, but I never got that far into the cult :) I did at one point. I have cubes in my attic, but whether they still work or not I don’t know. I’m doubtful. The hight of next geekness is having a color next, but I never got that far into the cult :)

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21341 Jacob Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:36:11 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21341 I remember all the hype when it came out. Oooh, it's got a MO drive. Whoops, it's got a sky high price too ... I remember all the hype when it came out. Oooh, it’s got a MO drive. Whoops, it’s got a sky high price too …

]]> By: Tam http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21340 Tam Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:29:45 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21340 I'm such a geek that I <i>have</i> a NeXT. :D I’m such a geek that I have a NeXT. :D

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21338 Sebastian Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:15:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21338 Only some of it is based on BSD. NEXT used (and MacOS X still uses) a microkernel architecture based on Mach, rather than on BSD's monolithic kernel model. It uses BSD's network stack and process model, but its architecture is pretty different overall. Only some of it is based on BSD. NEXT used (and MacOS X still uses) a microkernel architecture based on Mach, rather than on BSD’s monolithic kernel model. It uses BSD’s network stack and process model, but its architecture is pretty different overall.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/04/11/mac-gone-mainstream/#comment-21337 Jacob Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:04:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=3196#comment-21337 The even geekier realize NextStep took source code from BSD. The even geekier realize NextStep took source code from BSD.

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