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	<title>Comments on: Sharks Smelling Blood in the Water</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Regolith</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/31/sharks-smelling-blood-in-the-water/#comment-21029</link>
		<dc:creator>Regolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I didn't even think about the regulations you have to memorize.  I've lived with them for so long they're damn near second nature, but for  the non-hunters they probably can seem rather bizarre or absurd.  In Nevada, for instance, you can't carry a loaded gun in the vehicle while hunting, though it runs directly counter to state law.  You can't even lean a loaded gun against the vehicle, or use the vehicle as a shooting rest.  It's a quick way to lose your license.

The regulations for what kind of handgun constitutes "any legal weapon"  (i.e. any weapon that is "legal" to take certain types of game) for big game in Nevada  not only specifies minimum barrel length and caliber - but &lt;i&gt;overall cartridge length&lt;/i&gt;.  IIRC, some .357 loads meet the criteria, some don't.  So you have to be careful on exactly what type of ammunition you use as well.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  You also have to know minutia such as exactly when the sun sets (it's illegal to hunt most game after sundown), EXACTLY where you are if you're  hunting anything that requires a tag  (states typically issue a tag for certain "game units", which often have irregular boundaries - and god help you if you shoot an animal in the unit you have a tag for and it runs into another unit you don't have a tag for before expiring, and a game warden catches you gutting it in the other unit or trying to haul it back over the boundary),  and dozens of other little bits of information that a sportsman is required to know to stay on the right side of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I didn&#8217;t even think about the regulations you have to memorize.  I&#8217;ve lived with them for so long they&#8217;re damn near second nature, but for  the non-hunters they probably can seem rather bizarre or absurd.  In Nevada, for instance, you can&#8217;t carry a loaded gun in the vehicle while hunting, though it runs directly counter to state law.  You can&#8217;t even lean a loaded gun against the vehicle, or use the vehicle as a shooting rest.  It&#8217;s a quick way to lose your license.</p>
<p>The regulations for what kind of handgun constitutes &#8220;any legal weapon&#8221;  (i.e. any weapon that is &#8220;legal&#8221; to take certain types of game) for big game in Nevada  not only specifies minimum barrel length and caliber - but <i>overall cartridge length</i>.  IIRC, some .357 loads meet the criteria, some don&#8217;t.  So you have to be careful on exactly what type of ammunition you use as well.</p>
<p>This is just the tip of the iceberg.  You also have to know minutia such as exactly when the sun sets (it&#8217;s illegal to hunt most game after sundown), EXACTLY where you are if you&#8217;re  hunting anything that requires a tag  (states typically issue a tag for certain &#8220;game units&#8221;, which often have irregular boundaries - and god help you if you shoot an animal in the unit you have a tag for and it runs into another unit you don&#8217;t have a tag for before expiring, and a game warden catches you gutting it in the other unit or trying to haul it back over the boundary),  and dozens of other little bits of information that a sportsman is required to know to stay on the right side of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott R. Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/31/sharks-smelling-blood-in-the-water/#comment-21011</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott R. Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if there was a more active hunting blog community, we could get our message out there and make some headway with our sport, like you gun bloggers have.

As for the barriers to getting into hunting:  I sympathize with you.  I didn't realize how ridiculous some of the hunting regulations were until I tried to get my friends to go hunting with me, and I had to explain them.   Heck, I'm not quite sure if I committed a crime by euthanizing a rabid raccoon a few weeks ago, and I'm in Arkansas.  I shudder to think what it's like in other parts of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if there was a more active hunting blog community, we could get our message out there and make some headway with our sport, like you gun bloggers have.</p>
<p>As for the barriers to getting into hunting:  I sympathize with you.  I didn&#8217;t realize how ridiculous some of the hunting regulations were until I tried to get my friends to go hunting with me, and I had to explain them.   Heck, I&#8217;m not quite sure if I committed a crime by euthanizing a rabid raccoon a few weeks ago, and I&#8217;m in Arkansas.  I shudder to think what it&#8217;s like in other parts of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcibiades McZombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcibiades McZombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, his masters are giving him orders.  And they obviously approved his message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, his masters are giving him orders.  And they obviously approved his message.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the barriers to entry for the sport are definitely a big reason why it's in decline.  I would like to try it, but the barriers are a problem for me.  It just takes a significant investment even to just give it a try.

As for The Gun Guys, Gonzo is a paid shill, and most of his claims range from ridiculous to outright false, so why pay any attention to him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the barriers to entry for the sport are definitely a big reason why it&#8217;s in decline.  I would like to try it, but the barriers are a problem for me.  It just takes a significant investment even to just give it a try.</p>
<p>As for The Gun Guys, Gonzo is a paid shill, and most of his claims range from ridiculous to outright false, so why pay any attention to him?</p>
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		<title>By: Regolith</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/31/sharks-smelling-blood-in-the-water/#comment-20995</link>
		<dc:creator>Regolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, that should be Bob Ricker, not Ritter.  I really wish  you could edit comments...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, that should be Bob Ricker, not Ritter.  I really wish  you could edit comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Regolith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of reasons hunting is dwindling, and unfortunately some of them are extremely hard to change.

I'm a hunter myself, but lately I simply haven't had time.  College has kept me busy, and even if I could shoehorn in more time for it, it'd be absurdly expensive, as I'm living out of state.  States typically charge non-residents many times more for things like licenses and tags.

I'm not alone in this.  Increasing demands on people's time usually means hunting falls by the wayside, and the ever-rising costs of hunting licenses and tags aren't helping either.

Additionally, it's becoming harder and harder to find places to hunt.  This is especially true in the eastern US, but not as bad as out west.  Lack of access to land to hunt on is strangling the sport in many areas.  I'm lucky in that I live in an area where I have access to a large amount of unrestricted public lands; many are not so lucky.

Finally, the sport is not portrayed very well in the media, and elitists like Bob Ritter don't help things at all, either.  

It's possible that some of these things can be turned around with enough effort, such as media portrayal and fees, but things like lack of access to hunting lands are not something that's going to be easy to fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of reasons hunting is dwindling, and unfortunately some of them are extremely hard to change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a hunter myself, but lately I simply haven&#8217;t had time.  College has kept me busy, and even if I could shoehorn in more time for it, it&#8217;d be absurdly expensive, as I&#8217;m living out of state.  States typically charge non-residents many times more for things like licenses and tags.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not alone in this.  Increasing demands on people&#8217;s time usually means hunting falls by the wayside, and the ever-rising costs of hunting licenses and tags aren&#8217;t helping either.</p>
<p>Additionally, it&#8217;s becoming harder and harder to find places to hunt.  This is especially true in the eastern US, but not as bad as out west.  Lack of access to land to hunt on is strangling the sport in many areas.  I&#8217;m lucky in that I live in an area where I have access to a large amount of unrestricted public lands; many are not so lucky.</p>
<p>Finally, the sport is not portrayed very well in the media, and elitists like Bob Ritter don&#8217;t help things at all, either.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that some of these things can be turned around with enough effort, such as media portrayal and fees, but things like lack of access to hunting lands are not something that&#8217;s going to be easy to fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcibiades McZombie</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/31/sharks-smelling-blood-in-the-water/#comment-20993</link>
		<dc:creator>Alcibiades McZombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.gunguys.com/?p=2882" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Gun Guys&lt;/a&gt; come out against lead ammo.  Of course, the most sensible thing to do is use steel ammunition or something similar, but I doubt they'd ever recommend that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gunguys.com/?p=2882" rel="nofollow">The Gun Guys</a> come out against lead ammo.  Of course, the most sensible thing to do is use steel ammunition or something similar, but I doubt they&#8217;d ever recommend that.</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/31/sharks-smelling-blood-in-the-water/#comment-20988</link>
		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are already some on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deer+field+dressing+instructions&#38;search_type=" rel="nofollow"&gt;youtube&lt;/a&gt;, although I'd say it's really not for the faint of heart or stomach (and fairly complicated).  I've done it once, but it's a lot of work, and it's a *boatload* of meat with even the smaller deer.  Make sure you've got a good freezer.

Pay a lot of attention to the local laws, though.  There can be some rather hefty requirements as to what's acceptable and what isn't, and what licensing fees you have to pay.  I know Ohio had a lot of places with hefty firearms discharge laws that were only recently over-ridden, and I still would prefer to avoid being the test case.  Your local WalMart should have guides and sell licenses, if they sell firearms, as would most rifle shops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are already some on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deer+field+dressing+instructions&amp;search_type=" rel="nofollow">youtube</a>, although I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s really not for the faint of heart or stomach (and fairly complicated).  I&#8217;ve done it once, but it&#8217;s a lot of work, and it&#8217;s a *boatload* of meat with even the smaller deer.  Make sure you&#8217;ve got a good freezer.</p>
<p>Pay a lot of attention to the local laws, though.  There can be some rather hefty requirements as to what&#8217;s acceptable and what isn&#8217;t, and what licensing fees you have to pay.  I know Ohio had a lot of places with hefty firearms discharge laws that were only recently over-ridden, and I still would prefer to avoid being the test case.  Your local WalMart should have guides and sell licenses, if they sell firearms, as would most rifle shops.</p>
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		<title>By: Laughingdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laughingdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd love to try hunting.  But, even if I managed to see a turkey or deer at my parent's place when they're in season,  I don't have a freaking clue what to do with them once they're dead.  Someone needs to throw up a "Field Dressing 101" video somewhere for idiots/city slickers like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to try hunting.  But, even if I managed to see a turkey or deer at my parent&#8217;s place when they&#8217;re in season,  I don&#8217;t have a freaking clue what to do with them once they&#8217;re dead.  Someone needs to throw up a &#8220;Field Dressing 101&#8243; video somewhere for idiots/city slickers like me.</p>
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