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	<title>Comments on: H&amp;K Fanboys and the Shooting Sports</title>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/28/hk-fanboys-and-the-shooting-sports/#comment-20952</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re particularly well qualified to speculate about how closely I examined the price tags on my purchases or how badly I got ripped off by my dealer. I paid about $650 for my USP, new; I paid about $565 for my Glock, new. A $85 &quot;hype tax&quot;, as you call it, does not constitute a back-breaking, rant-inspiring markup, in my world.

Do I think HK firearms are overpriced? Sure. Would I pay the &quot;hype tax&quot; again? Probably not. Does $85 that I wish I had back diminish my satisfaction with my USP to the point of taking an enormous steaming crap on the manufacturer and all its works, and getting into stupid Internet slap-fights with tools who&#039;ve never come closer to firing a weapon than Call to Duty? Life&#039;s too short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re particularly well qualified to speculate about how closely I examined the price tags on my purchases or how badly I got ripped off by my dealer. I paid about $650 for my USP, new; I paid about $565 for my Glock, new. A $85 &#8220;hype tax&#8221;, as you call it, does not constitute a back-breaking, rant-inspiring markup, in my world.</p>
<p>Do I think HK firearms are overpriced? Sure. Would I pay the &#8220;hype tax&#8221; again? Probably not. Does $85 that I wish I had back diminish my satisfaction with my USP to the point of taking an enormous steaming crap on the manufacturer and all its works, and getting into stupid Internet slap-fights with tools who&#8217;ve never come closer to firing a weapon than Call to Duty? Life&#8217;s too short.</p>
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		<title>By: Laughingdog</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/28/hk-fanboys-and-the-shooting-sports/#comment-20938</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughingdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It wasn’t significantly more expensive than a Glock or a SigPro&quot;

I don&#039;t think you looked too closely at the price tags when you bought your USP, or your store rapes people buying Glocks.  H&amp;K and Sig do both have the hype tax on them, driving them to the $700-$900 price range.  But you can get a Glock for about $450-$500.

They aren&#039;t bad guns.  But, having shot a range of brands, I really can&#039;t see any reason to pay so much more for Sigs and H&amp;Ks just because some guys in Spec War use some of their models.  Especially since the Spec War guys I run into in the range generally prefer to shoot other brands themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It wasn’t significantly more expensive than a Glock or a SigPro&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you looked too closely at the price tags when you bought your USP, or your store rapes people buying Glocks.  H&amp;K and Sig do both have the hype tax on them, driving them to the $700-$900 price range.  But you can get a Glock for about $450-$500.</p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t bad guns.  But, having shot a range of brands, I really can&#8217;t see any reason to pay so much more for Sigs and H&amp;Ks just because some guys in Spec War use some of their models.  Especially since the Spec War guys I run into in the range generally prefer to shoot other brands themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: BadIdeaGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/28/hk-fanboys-and-the-shooting-sports/#comment-20936</link>
		<dc:creator>BadIdeaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just kidding! (sorry if my j/k post double-posted)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just kidding! (sorry if my j/k post double-posted)</p>
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		<title>By: BadIdeaGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/28/hk-fanboys-and-the-shooting-sports/#comment-20935</link>
		<dc:creator>BadIdeaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re just jealous, because real operators carry H&amp;K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re just jealous, because real operators carry H&amp;K.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/28/hk-fanboys-and-the-shooting-sports/#comment-20932</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own a USP, and while I&#039;m not here to claim that it&#039;s God&#039;s gift or anything, I think the writer is unjustly harsh on the handgun. It wasn&#039;t significantly more expensive than a Glock or a SigPro; the trigger is a little blocky but not this strange Teutonic implement the writer makes out; and I can operate the mag release with one hand just fine, though admittedly I have big hands.

It sounds a lot to me like the writer is every bit as religious about his anti-HK preferences as the fanboys are with their pro-HK drivel. Reality tends to occupy the wide gray area between the positions staked out by zealots of all stripes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a USP, and while I&#8217;m not here to claim that it&#8217;s God&#8217;s gift or anything, I think the writer is unjustly harsh on the handgun. It wasn&#8217;t significantly more expensive than a Glock or a SigPro; the trigger is a little blocky but not this strange Teutonic implement the writer makes out; and I can operate the mag release with one hand just fine, though admittedly I have big hands.</p>
<p>It sounds a lot to me like the writer is every bit as religious about his anti-HK preferences as the fanboys are with their pro-HK drivel. Reality tends to occupy the wide gray area between the positions staked out by zealots of all stripes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcibiades McZombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcibiades McZombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that guy mentioned how an SKS won&#039;t win a precision rifle competition.  Well, of course not, most firearms of all types won&#039;t win competitions.  Plus, it ignores the whole concept of self-defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that guy mentioned how an SKS won&#8217;t win a precision rifle competition.  Well, of course not, most firearms of all types won&#8217;t win competitions.  Plus, it ignores the whole concept of self-defense.</p>
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