Comments on: Speaking of Suicides http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:30:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20902 Sebastian Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:36:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20902 Suicides are pretty common. They don't usually make news. At least not around here. Suicides are pretty common. They don’t usually make news. At least not around here.

]]> By: Gary http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20901 Gary Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:53:18 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20901 Sorry Sebastian, I don't believe the data. I live in Billings, MT...the largest city in MT and can't recall the last time I heard about a suicide here. And I listen to the morning talk-radio-news on my way to work 5 days a week. Sorry Sebastian, I don’t believe the data. I live in Billings, MT…the largest city in MT and can’t recall the last time I heard about a suicide here. And I listen to the morning talk-radio-news on my way to work 5 days a week.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20874 Sebastian Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:51:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20874 <i>we’re social animals who have an instinctive need for living in groups.</i> Japan is very population dense and has a higher suicide rate. Europe does too, and also has a higher population density. I wonder how much study has been done on this, because it's interesting. Japan is probably easy to explain because of culture, but you'd imagine Europe and the US should have relatively similar rates of suicide. we’re social animals who have an instinctive need for living in groups.

Japan is very population dense and has a higher suicide rate. Europe does too, and also has a higher population density. I wonder how much study has been done on this, because it’s interesting. Japan is probably easy to explain because of culture, but you’d imagine Europe and the US should have relatively similar rates of suicide.

]]> By: Turk Turon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20871 Turk Turon Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:50:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20871 A lot of academics study suicide and suicide statistics and, except for gun-controllers, they uniformly find that suicide is not correlated to gun ownership. It IS possible to find sub-categories of populations in the U.S. in which there is an appearance of a connection, but there are just as many counter-examples. And international comparisons of suicide rates provide some of the most striking counter-examples; Japan for example, with no civilian gun ownership AT ALL, and a suicide rate about double of the U.S. rate. How is that possible, if the easy availability of guns facilitates suicide? A lot of academics study suicide and suicide statistics and, except for gun-controllers, they uniformly find that suicide is not correlated to gun ownership. It IS possible to find sub-categories of populations in the U.S. in which there is an appearance of a connection, but there are just as many counter-examples. And international comparisons of suicide rates provide some of the most striking counter-examples; Japan for example, with no civilian gun ownership AT ALL, and a suicide rate about double of the U.S. rate. How is that possible, if the easy availability of guns facilitates suicide?

]]> By: Nomen Nescio http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20870 Nomen Nescio Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:43:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20870 <i>Montana, Nevada, Alaska, New Mexico, and Wyoming</i> big states with very low population densities and huge empty spaces between people. lesson? most people aren't fit to be alone all the time; we're social animals who have an instinctive need for living in groups. Montana, Nevada, Alaska, New Mexico, and Wyoming

big states with very low population densities and huge empty spaces between people. lesson? most people aren’t fit to be alone all the time; we’re social animals who have an instinctive need for living in groups.

]]> By: Jay http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20869 Jay Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:25:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20869 Whenever the anti's lose on the issue of crime and self defense they automatically turn to suicide to make their case for more gun control. Sorry, but the state does not have a compelling interest in making people safer from themselves. I don't want to see anybody kill themselves because frankly, I don't think there's anything that can happen to a person that is so terrible it justifies taking your own life. But why should my rights be infringed because some person in Montana might become unstable to the point where kill themselves? Whenever the anti’s lose on the issue of crime and self defense they automatically turn to suicide to make their case for more gun control. Sorry, but the state does not have a compelling interest in making people safer from themselves. I don’t want to see anybody kill themselves because frankly, I don’t think there’s anything that can happen to a person that is so terrible it justifies taking your own life. But why should my rights be infringed because some person in Montana might become unstable to the point where kill themselves?

]]> By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20862 Alcibiades McZombie Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:33:37 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/27/speaking-of-suicides/#comment-20862 I thought murder and suicide rates were, in some way, inversely proportional. Now, I just need the numbers to back up my theory. I thought murder and suicide rates were, in some way, inversely proportional.

Now, I just need the numbers to back up my theory.

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