Comments on: Need Some Reloading Advice http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:34:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alcibiades McZombie http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20279 Alcibiades McZombie Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:36:30 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20279 Ah, yes, momentum, my perpetual foe. I ran into the energy versus momentum problem when I dreamed up a [fictional] recoilless rifle. Momentum just made more sense. Ah, yes, momentum, my perpetual foe.

I ran into the energy versus momentum problem when I dreamed up a [fictional] recoilless rifle. Momentum just made more sense.

]]> By: Laughingdog http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20277 Laughingdog Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:19:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20277 You'll probably have to load pretty hot to get a .44 magnum revolver to reach out to 100 yards effectively. I have a .44 magnum lever action rifle. At 50 yards, it hit just a little bit below the point of aim with factory ammo. At 100 yards, I had to aim roughly 18" to 24" inches high to be on target. You’ll probably have to load pretty hot to get a .44 magnum revolver to reach out to 100 yards effectively. I have a .44 magnum lever action rifle. At 50 yards, it hit just a little bit below the point of aim with factory ammo. At 100 yards, I had to aim roughly 18″ to 24″ inches high to be on target.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20276 Sebastian Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:38:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20276 Makes sense from a physics point of view. I'd be interested to read that. Makes sense from a physics point of view. I’d be interested to read that.

]]> By: Joe Huffman http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20275 Joe Huffman Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:18:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20275 Energy in this (and nearly all) bullet/target interaction is irrelevant. Momentum is the variable that is important. I really need to do that blog post "Energy is irrelevant" I've been procrastinating about for years... Energy in this (and nearly all) bullet/target interaction is irrelevant. Momentum is the variable that is important.

I really need to do that blog post “Energy is irrelevant” I’ve been procrastinating about for years…

]]> By: Jame Nelson http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20273 Jame Nelson Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:19:16 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20273 The 7.0 grains of unique works well with the 240 grain bullet in my Taurus and Rossi 5 shot revolvers. The 7.0 grains of unique works well with the 240 grain bullet in my Taurus and Rossi 5 shot revolvers.

]]> By: GeorgeH http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20271 GeorgeH Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:33:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20271 This article is about Elmer Keith's heavy 44 special load. After 75 years it still sets the standard. http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=4 This article is about Elmer Keith’s heavy 44 special load.
After 75 years it still sets the standard.

http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=4

]]> By: Rustmeister http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20270 Rustmeister Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:49:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20270 If I were reloading, I'd try for a .44 Special +P load. That would be perfect. If I were reloading, I’d try for a .44 Special +P load. That would be perfect.

]]> By: Timmeeee http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20269 Timmeeee Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:47:16 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20269 All of your questions will be answered at: http://www.handloads.org/ Two examples you might like : 240gr LSWC 10.0 gr Unique 1,100 fps OAL 1.6" primer WLP Light for a magnum, hot for a special 240gr LSWC 9.0 gr IMR- Hi Skor 700X 1,150 fps This is a nice target load based on a LSWC that is very easy to find. Average recoil and very accurate. Remington 2 1/2 primer. Crimp into the crimp groove with a heavy roll crimp done in a Lee Carbide Crimp die. Max powder charge is 9.5 grs. All of your questions will be answered at:

http://www.handloads.org/

Two examples you might like :

240gr LSWC 10.0 gr Unique 1,100 fps OAL 1.6″ primer WLP
Light for a magnum, hot for a special

240gr LSWC 9.0 gr IMR- Hi Skor 700X 1,150 fps
This is a nice target load based on a LSWC that is very easy to find. Average recoil and very accurate. Remington 2 1/2 primer. Crimp into the crimp groove with a heavy roll crimp done in a Lee Carbide Crimp die. Max powder charge is 9.5 grs.

]]> By: Richard http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20268 Richard Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:32:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20268 I suggest going to http://hodgdon.com/ for certified loads - I light-load .44 magnum using their titegroup cowboy loads and hot-load full jacketed using bunches of 2400. Titegroup was developed to be position-insensitive (powder up against the bullet, powder up against the prime, whatever) with light Cowboy loads. Trail Boss is a bulky powder to take up a lot of case space with light loads. My light load is 7.5g Titegroup behind 240g LFP (cowboy load). I suggest going to http://hodgdon.com/ for certified loads - I light-load .44 magnum using their titegroup cowboy loads and hot-load full jacketed using bunches of 2400. Titegroup was developed to be position-insensitive (powder up against the bullet, powder up against the prime, whatever) with light Cowboy loads. Trail Boss is a bulky powder to take up a lot of case space with light loads. My light load is 7.5g Titegroup behind 240g LFP (cowboy load).

]]> By: BobG http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20267 BobG Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:50:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20267 I've had good luck with 2400 for 44 mag loads for quite a few years now. If you want a light load in 44 mag brass, 7.0 gr of Unique works well with a 240 gr lead bullet. I’ve had good luck with 2400 for 44 mag loads for quite a few years now.
If you want a light load in 44 mag brass, 7.0 gr of Unique works well with a 240 gr lead bullet.

]]> By: Ahab http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20266 Ahab Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:47:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20266 A good low recoil .44 Magnum load would be 6.0 grains of IMR Trail Boss powder under that 240 grain bullet. Trail boss is extremely popular for Cowboy shooting, but for your .44 Magnum should be able to meet your needs pretty well. A good low recoil .44 Magnum load would be 6.0 grains of IMR Trail Boss powder under that 240 grain bullet.

Trail boss is extremely popular for Cowboy shooting, but for your .44 Magnum should be able to meet your needs pretty well.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20265 Sebastian Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:18:11 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20265 I wouldn't just ignorantly accept what someone says. I would research first to make sure the recommendation was within what I see from other loading data. I wouldn’t just ignorantly accept what someone says. I would research first to make sure the recommendation was within what I see from other loading data.

]]> By: Jim W http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20264 Jim W Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:10:24 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/03/15/need-some-reloading-advice/#comment-20264 There is a certain threshold beyond which too much empty space in a case causes a risk of detonation (though I don't know what the reloading term for this automotive phenomenon is)- basically a massive pressure spike from colliding ignition fronts. How close you are to that threshold loading 44 mag cases to 44 special levels, I have no idea. I would advise against looking for loads from anonymous folks on the internets. Someone could recommend a great load or they could typo and accidentally recommend a load that sends your fingers downrange. There is a certain threshold beyond which too much empty space in a case causes a risk of detonation (though I don’t know what the reloading term for this automotive phenomenon is)- basically a massive pressure spike from colliding ignition fronts. How close you are to that threshold loading 44 mag cases to 44 special levels, I have no idea.

I would advise against looking for loads from anonymous folks on the internets. Someone could recommend a great load or they could typo and accidentally recommend a load that sends your fingers downrange.

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