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	<title>Comments on: Not Everyone Will be a Shooter</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Merchant</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/01/30/not-everyone-will-be-a-shooter/#comment-18527</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"baby killing bullet hoses"

Aren't they opening for The Old 97's at the Palladium on Friday?</description>
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<p>Aren&#8217;t they opening for The Old 97&#8217;s at the Palladium on Friday?</p>
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		<title>By: Weer'd Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weer'd Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno  about other guys, but I love sharing hobbies with my wife.  Sadly guns aren't one of them.  That may change, but I'm not holding my breath.   Still I've always been a video game head, now we just bought a Wii and the wife and I play regularly together.  WAYYY better than solo.  We hike, camp and canoe together.  Also a pleasure.  My wife DOES like shooting trap, and those trips to the range are ALWAYS a hoot.

Could you blame me for being excited if my wife suddenly expressed an interest in handloading or collecting C&#38;R guns?

The hobby side is her choice.   The safty thing, while not somthing I foce, I uge on a different level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno  about other guys, but I love sharing hobbies with my wife.  Sadly guns aren&#8217;t one of them.  That may change, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.   Still I&#8217;ve always been a video game head, now we just bought a Wii and the wife and I play regularly together.  WAYYY better than solo.  We hike, camp and canoe together.  Also a pleasure.  My wife DOES like shooting trap, and those trips to the range are ALWAYS a hoot.</p>
<p>Could you blame me for being excited if my wife suddenly expressed an interest in handloading or collecting C&amp;R guns?</p>
<p>The hobby side is her choice.   The safty thing, while not somthing I foce, I uge on a different level.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the desire to see their wife be able to protect herself is definitely one aspect, but this doesn't encompass the entire set of guys who want to get the women in their life to the range.

In respect to self-defense, I have more than a few women friends who I don't think are capable of carrying a firearm because they don't have the psychological makeup necessary to pull the trigger, even if their lives are in danger.  The other correlary to the title of this post would be "Not Everyone Will Carry a Gun"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the desire to see their wife be able to protect herself is definitely one aspect, but this doesn&#8217;t encompass the entire set of guys who want to get the women in their life to the range.</p>
<p>In respect to self-defense, I have more than a few women friends who I don&#8217;t think are capable of carrying a firearm because they don&#8217;t have the psychological makeup necessary to pull the trigger, even if their lives are in danger.  The other correlary to the title of this post would be &#8220;Not Everyone Will Carry a Gun&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sailorcurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sailorcurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weer'd beat me to it.

250 yard drives and an excellent short game aren't going to save my wife's life when she's getting off work late, the parking lot is dark and there's no one around to see her being abducted, robbed or murdered.

Shooting can be a hobby, but I think for most of us it's much more than that.  It has as much or more to do with the duty of self defense as it does with spending an enjoyable afternoon poking holes in paper.

With that said, my wife was raised in a very liberal family.  I've helped her recover from most of the damage that did to her but she still doesn't really enjoy shooting.  She knows how, she knows the rules, I'm satisfied she can make the bullets go where she's pointing them, but she's just not that interested in it as a hobby.

I wish she would shoot more, but I can't make her and trying to force her or nagging about it would only make her resent it;  so: to each their own.  As long as she doesn't begrudge me my range time, she's free to pursue her own interests.  That doesn't in the least deny me "affirmation."  But I speak only for myself.  I'm sure there are some that you accurately describe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weer&#8217;d beat me to it.</p>
<p>250 yard drives and an excellent short game aren&#8217;t going to save my wife&#8217;s life when she&#8217;s getting off work late, the parking lot is dark and there&#8217;s no one around to see her being abducted, robbed or murdered.</p>
<p>Shooting can be a hobby, but I think for most of us it&#8217;s much more than that.  It has as much or more to do with the duty of self defense as it does with spending an enjoyable afternoon poking holes in paper.</p>
<p>With that said, my wife was raised in a very liberal family.  I&#8217;ve helped her recover from most of the damage that did to her but she still doesn&#8217;t really enjoy shooting.  She knows how, she knows the rules, I&#8217;m satisfied she can make the bullets go where she&#8217;s pointing them, but she&#8217;s just not that interested in it as a hobby.</p>
<p>I wish she would shoot more, but I can&#8217;t make her and trying to force her or nagging about it would only make her resent it;  so: to each their own.  As long as she doesn&#8217;t begrudge me my range time, she&#8217;s free to pursue her own interests.  That doesn&#8217;t in the least deny me &#8220;affirmation.&#8221;  But I speak only for myself.  I&#8217;m sure there are some that you accurately describe.</p>
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		<title>By: Weer'd Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weer'd Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid point, but also If somebody attempts to rape my wife while I'm elsewhere, the quality of her drive isn't going to to make much of a difference in her situation (even if she has a nice 9-iron in hand...that extra reach may help...but against a street monster???)

Meanwhile a nice .38 tucked in her waistband or purse could make a LOT of difference.

Also in golf clubs are called "Clubs" for a reason.  Every young child is taught and re-taught the way to safely handle a club-like-object.  We all know not to swing one around aimlessly, we know not to do it in a place that has little room.  We always know to check our backswing as well as what we're swining at,  and we know you don't swing a club at anything you don't mind getting destroyed.

Meanwhile not only do most people know nothing of the 4 rules of gun safty, but Hollywood et al do whatever they can to show UNSAFE gun behavior with no conciquence (When was the last time you saw a TV or Movie cop get "Cop Leg" because they forgot rule 3?...meanwhile the Three Stooges et al are PRIME examples of EXACTLY what happens when you swing a club when you're not looking)

So in the end the differences are HUGE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid point, but also If somebody attempts to rape my wife while I&#8217;m elsewhere, the quality of her drive isn&#8217;t going to to make much of a difference in her situation (even if she has a nice 9-iron in hand&#8230;that extra reach may help&#8230;but against a street monster???)</p>
<p>Meanwhile a nice .38 tucked in her waistband or purse could make a LOT of difference.</p>
<p>Also in golf clubs are called &#8220;Clubs&#8221; for a reason.  Every young child is taught and re-taught the way to safely handle a club-like-object.  We all know not to swing one around aimlessly, we know not to do it in a place that has little room.  We always know to check our backswing as well as what we&#8217;re swining at,  and we know you don&#8217;t swing a club at anything you don&#8217;t mind getting destroyed.</p>
<p>Meanwhile not only do most people know nothing of the 4 rules of gun safty, but Hollywood et al do whatever they can to show UNSAFE gun behavior with no conciquence (When was the last time you saw a TV or Movie cop get &#8220;Cop Leg&#8221; because they forgot rule 3?&#8230;meanwhile the Three Stooges et al are PRIME examples of EXACTLY what happens when you swing a club when you&#8217;re not looking)</p>
<p>So in the end the differences are HUGE</p>
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		<title>By: Call me Ahab &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t push the issue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Call me Ahab &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t push the issue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I agree with Tam who says in the comments that not everyone is going to want to be a shooter, and I also agree with Sebastian  who points out that part of the reason guys try to get so many people to come shooting with us is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know women who have never touched a gun, just simply have no desire to go to the range, and yet are very passionate about 2A rights.

People need to realize that this isn't always about who goes to the range the most or who owns the most guns.  There are uses for pro-gun people in the movement off the range, and in fact, that's where we may need the most help.

That said, I know in Mass., we had a great gun club community.  It was just about shooting, we had paid members of the gun club - mostly women - who supported gun rights and fought gun control, but they didn't care about shooting.  They liked doing the Christmas parties, getting together to do the lunch fundraisers for the trap competitions, and otherwise building the community around shooting participation.  Men shouldn't discount that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know women who have never touched a gun, just simply have no desire to go to the range, and yet are very passionate about 2A rights.</p>
<p>People need to realize that this isn&#8217;t always about who goes to the range the most or who owns the most guns.  There are uses for pro-gun people in the movement off the range, and in fact, that&#8217;s where we may need the most help.</p>
<p>That said, I know in Mass., we had a great gun club community.  It was just about shooting, we had paid members of the gun club - mostly women - who supported gun rights and fought gun control, but they didn&#8217;t care about shooting.  They liked doing the Christmas parties, getting together to do the lunch fundraisers for the trap competitions, and otherwise building the community around shooting participation.  Men shouldn&#8217;t discount that.</p>
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