Comments on: I Dare You Mike!

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:48:17 +0000

Not on conspiracy charges. A conspiracy to commit only a misdemeanor is still a felony. Conspiracy is the key to this if the state’s AG intends to uphold the law.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:34:34 +0000

Unfortunately, someone has to get oppressed first.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:33:56 +0000

Depending on where they take this, I think it might make sense to ask the Attorney General for the state to do something. We have a statute that makes “official oppression” a crime. Meaning that government officials aren’t allowed to use their office to violate the rights of Pennsylvanians.

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:04:59 +0000

I doubt it would do much good, but shouldn’t we be pushing the state of Pa. to pursue these admitted felons? that is where you need to apply pressure on those people who need your votes to continue to avoid honest work.

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:02:48 +0000

the truth is that there is nothing that will be done through legal channels.

The mayor has admitted to conspiracy to perform illegal acts, he has even named his co-conspirators. A felony has been committed already.

Do you see anyone at any level of government or law enforcement arresting them? NO! and you won’t.

By: joated

joated — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:26:16 +0000

Nutter (I love that name!) needs to get his head out of his ass, bring the police force up to strength and go after the scumbags that are currently violating every gun law Pennsylvania has on the books–namely the gang members who follow no law but that of the ‘hood.

Writing, passing and enforcing “new” city only laws is illegal. And, Sebastion, I’d like to see him try to enforce ‘em. Gives “make my day” a whole ‘nother meaning.

By: kaveman

kaveman — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:31:21 +0000

This guy might provide a clue as to what to do to Nutter. Or it might just be good for a laugh…

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0118081def1.html

By: moose

moose — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:11:39 +0000

I forgot about the scam of raising taxes, fees and what ever else they can when they loose the lawsuit. …Man is not free unless government is limited. There’s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts.”
Ronald Reagan

By: kaveman

kaveman — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:20:35 +0000

Hitting them in the pocket book won’t do much.

They collect taxes.
They get sued.
They lose.
Tax money goes to the victors.
They collect taxes again and raise them to boot.

In all honesty, my citizen arrest scenario was done tounge-in-cheek. But the central problem remains in this country for a range of issues.

When you witness someone breaking the law, you call the cops. If you see a cop breaking the law, you call the FBI. If you see the FBI breaking the law, you call the Justice Dept. If you see the Justice department break the law, you call on Congress or the Executive branch. If the congress and the Executive branch is chock full of people who break the law and then brag about.

Who do you call next?

The people…

By: moose

moose — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:31:18 +0000

That’s what you need to do hit them where it hurts in the pocketbook then they will knock off the nonsense.

By: Nate

Nate — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:10:05 +0000

It would be ideal to throw all lawmakers who defy the Constitution in the clink for life, but face it, IAH (It Aint Happenin’). I think a few big payouts, or even one big payout lawsuit against the city would slap their pee-pees enough to prove our point. Running around yelling citizens’ arrest at corrupt political figures will only concrete the anit’s ideas of us thinking we are a bunch of Wyatt Earp at the OK Corrall wanna-bee’s.

By: moose

moose — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:05:34 +0000

They’ll taze your ass until your hair stands on end and your gonads shrink.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:55:57 +0000

What do you think will happen if you try to arrest a police officer who is trying to arrest you? Exactly how does that work?

By: kaveman

kaveman — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:23:57 +0000

Can we all say together…”citizens arrest”

I don’t know about your locality, but in mine, if I witness a crime, I have the authority to make a citizens arrest and hand they ass over to the cops. If enough people did this, maybe the cops( and the DA ) would stand up and take notice. Find them, follow them around and arrest them repeatedly.

By: Laughingdog

Laughingdog — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:14:38 +0000

I agree with Straightarrow on this one. If they try to enforce these laws, violating citizens civil rights, KNOWING THAT THEY’RE ILLEGAL, they are committing a crime themselves.

I wonder how they’ll enjoy federal prison after that?

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:59:19 +0000

If Nutter and his minions do this, the city and county shouldn’t pay for anything except the costs of their long term incarceration.

By: Nate

Nate — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:39:24 +0000

How mad would Mike be if the city paid for a whole bunch of new “Deadly Assault Weapons” or the “Airplane Killer” .50 cal Barrett…hmmm makes me love carrying in Philly even more.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:08:51 +0000

We have a few things in Pennsylvania that might apply, but the state AG would need to be willing to apply them. Fortunately, he’s thinking of running for governor next term, and he’ll need to do more for gun owners. Charging them under our Official Oppression statute would definitely win my vote!

By: Joe Huffman

Joe Huffman — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:06:25 +0000

As long as "the city" is paying the fines I doubt it will make much difference. The individuals involved in the violation need to be held responsible. Fortunately such a law exists. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to a lot of situations, a Federal prosecutor must decide to enforce the law and is rarely enforced.