Comments on: Congress Can Have My Lightbulbs … http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:05:05 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: James http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-21761 James Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:10:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-21761 I've used compact CFLs in the UK for a few years now. They used to be a bit dull. They have got a lot better. With the cost of electricity and the fact that the price of CFLs has fallen away, most people in the UK are changing to CFLs. I’ve used compact CFLs in the UK for a few years now. They used to be a bit dull. They have got a lot better. With the cost of electricity and the fact that the price of CFLs has fallen away, most people in the UK are changing to CFLs.

]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Standard Weekly on Bulb Ban http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16994 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Standard Weekly on Bulb Ban Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:03:12 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16994 [...] bulb ban passed out of Congress and signed into law by President Bush recently, that I talked bout here and [...] [...] bulb ban passed out of Congress and signed into law by President Bush recently, that I talked bout here and [...]

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16643 Ian Argent Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:39:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16643 Fair enough. One of the reasons we went to CFL was the availability of so-called "True Light" bulbs, which can be surprisingly harsh. And some of the cheaper CFLs we have are rather yellow (and have a warm-up time as well). Never got into halogens, the college I went to banned them in the dorms after a couple of combustion incidents... (They're the landlords, they can make the rules). Paint choice can mitigate, but you shouldn't have to repaint as well as change your bulbs. I'm a booster of CFL, obviously, but as I said, that's my choice, and yours, not the .govs. If nothing else, banning the competition will reduce innovation, and CFLs are by no means strictly better than incandescents, there's trade offs involved in both. If there weren't, this wouldn't be a controversial choice. Fair enough. One of the reasons we went to CFL was the availability of so-called “True Light” bulbs, which can be surprisingly harsh. And some of the cheaper CFLs we have are rather yellow (and have a warm-up time as well).

Never got into halogens, the college I went to banned them in the dorms after a couple of combustion incidents… (They’re the landlords, they can make the rules).

Paint choice can mitigate, but you shouldn’t have to repaint as well as change your bulbs.

I’m a booster of CFL, obviously, but as I said, that’s my choice, and yours, not the .govs. If nothing else, banning the competition will reduce innovation, and CFLs are by no means strictly better than incandescents, there’s trade offs involved in both. If there weren’t, this wouldn’t be a controversial choice.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16637 Sebastian Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:54:33 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16637 They have definitely gotten better, but they still give off a very fake light. The ones that closely match incandescent I think are too yellow. There's also the issue of having fixtures that take 50 watt halogens. Presumably they could be replaced with LEDs, but LEDs, in terms of providing a soft light, are even worse than CFLs. They have definitely gotten better, but they still give off a very fake light. The ones that closely match incandescent I think are too yellow. There’s also the issue of having fixtures that take 50 watt halogens. Presumably they could be replaced with LEDs, but LEDs, in terms of providing a soft light, are even worse than CFLs.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16634 Ian Argent Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:23:39 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16634 You know - I have replaced all but 4 blubs in my apt (1 in the fridge, and 3 globe-style ones in the bathroom) with CFLs; and I think this is a load of hooey. CFLs have been getting better, and a lot of the scaremongering above is no longer accurate; but that's a decision for the individual to make, not Congress... You know – I have replaced all but 4 blubs in my apt (1 in the fridge, and 3 globe-style ones in the bathroom) with CFLs; and I think this is a load of hooey.

CFLs have been getting better, and a lot of the scaremongering above is no longer accurate; but that’s a decision for the individual to make, not Congress…

]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Not Everyone Likes Freedom of Choice http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16481 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Not Everyone Likes Freedom of Choice Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:31:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16481 [...] This blogger took some exception to my post condemning Congress and the President for making light bulbs illegal. [...] [...] This blogger took some exception to my post condemning Congress and the President for making light bulbs illegal. [...]

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16451 Steve Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:21:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16451 What a great country. Force us to put fuel in our cars with additives that actually REDUCE MPG. Plus, said additives are inefficient to produce. That's saving energy. So, how long before lamp manufacturers simply put 2, 3, or 4 sockets in a lamp so you can stick multiple bulbs in to get the light you want? Two 60-watt bulbs anyone. Whoops, there goes that 100-watt savings. What a load of carp™. What a great country. Force us to put fuel in our cars with additives that actually REDUCE MPG. Plus, said additives are inefficient to produce. That’s saving energy.

So, how long before lamp manufacturers simply put 2, 3, or 4 sockets in a lamp so you can stick multiple bulbs in to get the light you want? Two 60-watt bulbs anyone. Whoops, there goes that 100-watt savings.

What a load of carp™.

]]> By: vinnie http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16441 vinnie Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:28:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16441 My incandescent bulbs are 100% efficient. Most of the summer I go to bed when the sun goes down so I don't use them. In the winter I need the extra heat. My incandescent bulbs are 100% efficient. Most of the summer I go to bed when the sun goes down so I don’t use them. In the winter I need the extra heat.

]]> By: sanchez "Jack" http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16437 sanchez "Jack" Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:42:27 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16437 "compact florescent bulbs," Don't some of those have a small amount of mercury in them? “compact florescent bulbs,”

Don’t some of those have a small amount of mercury in them?

]]> By: Dano http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16434 Dano Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:25:44 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16434 No you aren't alone. And just how much energy do the 'CFL' bulbs save? Please include the bio-hazard costs. And what about those of us who can't stand the quality of light that CFL's produce? Always gives me a damn headache. Guess I need to stock up on lamp oil and candles, 'cuse I sure as hell won't have any of those damn CFLs in my house. No you aren’t alone.

And just how much energy do the ‘CFL’ bulbs save? Please include the bio-hazard costs.

And what about those of us who can’t stand the quality of light that CFL’s produce? Always gives me a damn headache.

Guess I need to stock up on lamp oil and candles, ‘cuse I sure as hell won’t have any of those damn CFLs in my house.

]]> By: emdfl http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16433 emdfl Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:25:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16433 I see I'll have to start stockpiling light bulbs along with food and ammo. Let's see, half dozen bulbs per year and figure maybe another 25 years... I see I’ll have to start stockpiling light bulbs along with food and ammo.
Let’s see, half dozen bulbs per year and figure maybe another 25 years…

]]> By: Rob K http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16431 Rob K Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:10:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16431 Idiots. They don't see the non-obvious costs. If they completely ban incandescent bulbs, people are going to get hurt. Why? Compact florescent bulbs, like all florescent lights, don't start so great in cold. Got any unheated space that has lights? I know I do. I have a pole barn with that I've put CFLs in since it's 25 feet up and there's usually equipment under them. When it's below 40 they take a long time to brighten up. I don't know that they'd come on at all below 0. People are going to get hurt in poorly lit spaces that otherwise would have been brightly lit by incandescents. Idiots. They don’t see the non-obvious costs. If they completely ban incandescent bulbs, people are going to get hurt. Why? Compact florescent bulbs, like all florescent lights, don’t start so great in cold. Got any unheated space that has lights? I know I do. I have a pole barn with that I’ve put CFLs in since it’s 25 feet up and there’s usually equipment under them. When it’s below 40 they take a long time to brighten up. I don’t know that they’d come on at all below 0.

People are going to get hurt in poorly lit spaces that otherwise would have been brightly lit by incandescents.

]]> By: Mike w. http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/19/congress-can-have-my-lightbulbs/#comment-16427 Mike w. Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:52:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2194#comment-16427 Water-saving toilets are the devil. Oh, and they don't save water if you have to flush multiple times. In Canada several years ago they mandated the water-saving toilets. Guess what? A black market developed for people who wanted normal toilets smuggled into Canada from the U.S. If the government bans something and a sufficient demand still exists the black market will immediately fill that need. It's basic economics, and why "bans" never work unless the government also controls all borders and the means of production of said commodity. Water-saving toilets are the devil. Oh, and they don’t save water if you have to flush multiple times.

In Canada several years ago they mandated the water-saving toilets. Guess what? A black market developed for people who wanted normal toilets smuggled into Canada from the U.S.

If the government bans something and a sufficient demand still exists the black market will immediately fill that need. It’s basic economics, and why “bans” never work unless the government also controls all borders and the means of production of said commodity.

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