Comments on: Free Speech vs. Philadelphia http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:33:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Joe Bednarsky http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-19856 Joe Bednarsky Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:26:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-19856 On March 12, 2008 at 9am EST Live (That's right our first morning show), Joey Vento owner of Geno's Steaks will be our guest and we will be discussing how the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations is trying to make him remove the sign that he has up saying "This Is America, Please Speak English When Ordering". Now the last time I looked around this was still America, what is America coming to when the government thinks they can control our freedom of speech? We will be asking this and many more questions, so don't miss the show. http://www.joebednarsky.com On March 12, 2008 at 9am EST Live (That’s right our first morning show), Joey Vento owner of Geno’s Steaks will be our guest and we will be discussing how the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations is trying to make him remove the sign that he has up saying “This Is America, Please Speak English When Ordering”. Now the last time I looked around this was still America, what is America coming to when the government thinks they can control our freedom of speech? We will be asking this and many more questions, so don’t miss the show.

http://www.joebednarsky.com

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16265 Ian Argent Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:59:23 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16265 This should be fun. There are days I wonder if legislating an official language of American English might not be a bad idea... (Nominally the citizenship test requires fluency, no?) Note: this would ONLY be a requirement for interacting with the .gov; citizens can still use whatever language they wan tin their own dealings. But at the DMV or unemployment... This should be fun. There are days I wonder if legislating an official language of American English might not be a bad idea…

(Nominally the citizenship test requires fluency, no?)

Note: this would ONLY be a requirement for interacting with the .gov; citizens can still use whatever language they wan tin their own dealings. But at the DMV or unemployment…

]]> By: Mark http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16262 Mark Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:29:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16262 Nick Taliaferro just "express(ed) messages that might have the resulting affect of making any group, any ethnicity, and any national origin person feel unwelcome." I'm an American (my group, ethnicity & national origin). Taliaferro makes me feel unwelcome. The Human Relations Commission (assuming that it is legal at all) is a public accomodation. Therefore ... STFU Taliaferro' Nick Taliaferro just “express(ed) messages that might have the resulting affect of making any group, any ethnicity, and any national origin person feel unwelcome.”

I’m an American (my group, ethnicity & national origin).

Taliaferro makes me feel unwelcome.

The Human Relations Commission (assuming that it is legal at all) is a public accomodation.

Therefore … STFU Taliaferro’

]]> By: Mike w. http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16233 Mike w. Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:09:49 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16233 “Individuals who operate in a place of public accommodation cannot post signage or express messages that might have the resulting affect of making any group, any ethnicity, and any national origin person feel unwelcome,” said Nick Taliaferro, Human Relations Commission Of course they can. They can make anyone they want feel "unwelcome." They're just not allowed to actively discriminate against a particular protected class of individuals (based on race, gender, religion, ethnicity etc.) Besides, It's a bit difficult for them to take your order if you can't even speak english. “Individuals who operate in a place of public accommodation cannot post signage or express messages that might have the resulting affect of making any group, any ethnicity, and any national origin person feel unwelcome,” said Nick Taliaferro, Human Relations Commission

Of course they can. They can make anyone they want feel “unwelcome.” They’re just not allowed to actively discriminate against a particular protected class of individuals (based on race, gender, religion, ethnicity etc.) Besides, It’s a bit difficult for them to take your order if you can’t even speak english.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16228 Sebastian Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:21:16 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16228 Things get a little more complicated for public accommodations. You may actually refuse service to someone for smelling bad or having a silly neck tie. But if you start doing it for reasons of race, religion, or for the purposes of discriminating against a "protected class", then you might be liable. Things get a little more complicated for public accommodations. You may actually refuse service to someone for smelling bad or having a silly neck tie. But if you start doing it for reasons of race, religion, or for the purposes of discriminating against a “protected class”, then you might be liable.

]]> By: BCross http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16227 BCross Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:20:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16227 The "any group" portion of Nick's statement has some interesting possibilities though. Does this mean that signs prohibiting weapons at a business cannot be allowed since it might make people with a Concealed Carry license feel unwelcome? Would it also mean that any signs indicating that a restroom is for women only wouldn't be allowed since that might make men feel unwelcome? The “any group” portion of Nick’s statement has some interesting possibilities though. Does this mean that signs prohibiting weapons at a business cannot be allowed since it might make people with a Concealed Carry license feel unwelcome? Would it also mean that any signs indicating that a restroom is for women only wouldn’t be allowed since that might make men feel unwelcome?

]]> By: kaveman http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16225 kaveman Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:11:59 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16225 How about the sign that reads "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." I see these everywhere without any qualification as to why someone would be refused service. This guy would be perfectly within his rights to refuse service to those who don't order in english, wear a silly neck-tie or smell funny. How about the sign that reads “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”

I see these everywhere without any qualification as to why someone would be refused service. This guy would be perfectly within his rights to refuse service to those who don’t order in english, wear a silly neck-tie or smell funny.

]]> By: Michael http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/14/free-speech-vs-philadelphia/#comment-16224 Michael Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:05:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2153#comment-16224 It is just not free speech, but the right speech. Speak in whatever language you want at home, but in public speak english. It is just not free speech, but the right speech. Speak in whatever language you want at home, but in public speak english.

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