Comments on: Colorado Church Shooting Stopped by CWP Holder http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/ Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:57:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15884 Kurt "45superman" Hofmann Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:31:53 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15884 Ahab's theory (that the woman who stopped the killing at the New Life Church was probably a congregation member with a concealed carry license, rather than an off-duty LEO or professional security guard, would seem to be supported by <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3977342" rel="nofollow">something in this article</a> (on page 2): <i>A church security officer shot and killed the gunman before police arrived. When they heard about the shooting in Arvada, New Life Church leaders beefed up security for services that morning.</i> Sounds like some kind of hasty, ad hoc arrangement--seems more likely to be the kind of thing Ahab suspects, rather than anything else. Ahab’s theory (that the woman who stopped the killing at the New Life Church was probably a congregation member with a concealed carry license, rather than an off-duty LEO or professional security guard, would seem to be supported by something in this article (on page 2):

A church security officer shot and killed the gunman before police arrived. When they heard about the shooting in Arvada, New Life Church leaders beefed up security for services that morning.

Sounds like some kind of hasty, ad hoc arrangement–seems more likely to be the kind of thing Ahab suspects, rather than anything else.

]]> By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Reasoned Discourse, Part II http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15880 Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Reasoned Discourse, Part II Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:38:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15880 [...] blogger seems to think the mall shooting is the NRA’s fault.  I have to wonder who’s fault they think the thwarted church massacre was?  Or who’s [...] [...] blogger seems to think the mall shooting is the NRA’s fault.  I have to wonder who’s fault they think the thwarted church massacre was?  Or who’s [...]

]]> By: Michael http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15878 Michael Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:01:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15878 Just goes to show the old saying is true, "God created man, Colt made them equal." Just goes to show the old saying is true, “God created man, Colt made them equal.”

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15877 Sebastian Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:01:16 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15877 She wasn't hired security, according to what Ahab is hearing. That means she's just a woman with a CWP, who was a member of the church, and I'm guessing volunteered to be security. Possibly volunteering as soon as shots started to be fired. She wasn’t hired security, according to what Ahab is hearing. That means she’s just a woman with a CWP, who was a member of the church, and I’m guessing volunteered to be security. Possibly volunteering as soon as shots started to be fired.

]]> By: Dad http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15875 Dad Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:48:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15875 According to the AP; The gunman was killed by a member of the church's armed security staff before police arrived, Myers said. Officers also found several smoke-generating devices on the church campus; their intended purpose wasn't clear. According to the AP;

The gunman was killed by a member of the church’s armed security staff before police arrived, Myers said. Officers also found several smoke-generating devices on the church campus; their intended purpose wasn’t clear.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15874 Sebastian Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:37:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15874 Churches are targets. It's not a bad idea for a church to have a security plan. Of course, several states, including Texas and Virginia, have chosen to make churches gun free zones. Pennsylvania is not among them, and when I've been in churches here (which isn't often, I should say), I'm packing. In fact, the last church I was in was a Synagogue. I was far from the only one there that was armed. Churches are targets. It’s not a bad idea for a church to have a security plan. Of course, several states, including Texas and Virginia, have chosen to make churches gun free zones. Pennsylvania is not among them, and when I’ve been in churches here (which isn’t often, I should say), I’m packing.

In fact, the last church I was in was a Synagogue. I was far from the only one there that was armed.

]]> By: The Duck http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/12/10/colorado-church-shooting-stopped-by-cwp-holder/#comment-15873 The Duck Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:32:28 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=2093#comment-15873 I have been thinking about it all morning, that it might well be a member of the church, who had a ccw. I have been approached for training church groups in my area, for the same reason. I have been thinking about it all morning, that it might well be a member of the church, who had a ccw.
I have been approached for training church groups in my area, for the same reason.

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