Comments on: Barack Obama Bringing Gun Control Back http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/ Where There's Snow, There's Firepower Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:39:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: DJK http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-33585 DJK Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:44:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-33585 You can't make it harder for the "bad person" to get the guns.... If they want them....they get them. Period. You can’t make it harder for the “bad person” to get the guns…. If they want them….they get them. Period.

]]> By: BT http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-33582 BT Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:35:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-33582 Well.... I think we're missing the important parts. I have been raised around guns, was taught to shoot a gun at a very young age and would never hesitate to shoot someone in cold blood if it ment protecting myself, my husband, my son, or my family. I believe we have the right to carry guns and I believe that is what most people on here believe as well. However, what about the person that came into my house w/ the intention to hurt me or my family? He OBVIOUSLY does not have the same morals as I. What, prey tell, do we do about him? Wait until he shoots someone or murders someone to sentence him? Wait until a child gets a gun and shoots up a school because he was mad? Wait until a gang member shoots at another and an innocent bystander is murdered? What if we could make it where good responsible people are protected and their rights to own guns are as well, all while making it harder for "bad" people to get ahold of a gun and making our nation more safe. I think, as a whole, people in our nation don't teach their children the importance of gun responsibility and in turn, we have more people becoming more and more reckless. I am very much for our right to bear arms and I am very much NOT for an all out ban; however, I am for making our nation a safer nation for everyone to live in and I think that's what Obama's intention is. Do I think he knows as much about guns as I do? No. But I think he probably (since living in a big city) knows more about street violence and gun violence than I do. Bottom line... Guns don't kill people... People kill people. Well…. I think we’re missing the important parts. I have been raised around guns, was taught to shoot a gun at a very young age and would never hesitate to shoot someone in cold blood if it ment protecting myself, my husband, my son, or my family. I believe we have the right to carry guns and I believe that is what most people on here believe as well. However, what about the person that came into my house w/ the intention to hurt me or my family? He OBVIOUSLY does not have the same morals as I. What, prey tell, do we do about him? Wait until he shoots someone or murders someone to sentence him? Wait until a child gets a gun and shoots up a school because he was mad? Wait until a gang member shoots at another and an innocent bystander is murdered? What if we could make it where good responsible people are protected and their rights to own guns are as well, all while making it harder for “bad” people to get ahold of a gun and making our nation more safe. I think, as a whole, people in our nation don’t teach their children the importance of gun responsibility and in turn, we have more people becoming more and more reckless. I am very much for our right to bear arms and I am very much NOT for an all out ban; however, I am for making our nation a safer nation for everyone to live in and I think that’s what Obama’s intention is. Do I think he knows as much about guns as I do? No. But I think he probably (since living in a big city) knows more about street violence and gun violence than I do. Bottom line… Guns don’t kill people… People kill people.

]]> By: type-hb8 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-30715 type-hb8 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:54:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-30715 in my opinion guns dont kill people people kill people. if someone is so mad they want to kill someone they choose to use a gun and it makes every one look bad. so if they all used a shovel to kill would we ban shovels or even knives?? i think a firmer backround check would help more than any type of gun ban or law. even if the US decides to completly ban guns will it really solve anything?? stolen guns and guns on the streets will always continue. if we are somehow forced to hand our guns in dont you think it will boost the number of guns on the streets? most acts of violence are caused by guns on the streets not guns in the home.. hand guns are for mostly for home,car protection and sport. it would be very hard to pull a rifle out if somebody breaks into your home. i have a hand gun >> a springfield xd 45acp 13+1 round semi-auto.... id really choose to have 14 chances of hitting someone who breaks into my house then a bolt action rifle with 4-5 rounds tring to move the bolt....but all of this is in my opinion.... in my opinion guns dont kill people people kill people. if someone is so mad they want to kill someone they choose to use a gun and it makes every one look bad. so if they all used a shovel to kill would we ban shovels or even knives?? i think a firmer backround check would help more than any type of gun ban or law. even if the US decides to completly ban guns will it really solve anything?? stolen guns and guns on the streets will always continue. if we are somehow forced to hand our guns in dont you think it will boost the number of guns on the streets? most acts of violence are caused by guns on the streets not guns in the home.. hand guns are for mostly for home,car protection and sport. it would be very hard to pull a rifle out if somebody breaks into your home. i have a hand gun >> a springfield xd 45acp 13+1 round semi-auto…. id really choose to have 14 chances of hitting someone who breaks into my house then a bolt action rifle with 4-5 rounds tring to move the bolt….but all of this is in my opinion….

]]> By: DJK http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-24737 DJK Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:19:25 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-24737 He was until yesterday. :( He was until yesterday. :(

]]> By: Obama 2nd Amendment Supporter… « She Draws Him Like a Gun… http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-24646 Obama 2nd Amendment Supporter… « She Draws Him Like a Gun… Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:28:17 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-24646 [...] says: April 22nd, 2007 at 1:00 pm Barack Obama’s comments about gun control were perfectly logical. Maybe he doesn’t know every [...] [...] says: April 22nd, 2007 at 1:00 pm Barack Obama’s comments about gun control were perfectly logical. Maybe he doesn’t know every [...]

]]> By: LibertyMan http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-2/#comment-24144 LibertyMan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:15:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-24144 Yes, Ron Paul has NOT dropped out! And he will NOT support McCain! There is a rally July 12th in DC. It is not just about Ron Paul. It is about FREEDOM, our RIGHTS, and LIBERTY! It's time people stop bickering over the table scraps that the government leaves us and start "putting their money where their mouth is" by stepping up and taking back what the government has taken from us. I am not a gun owner.... yet. I sort of despies guns, though I know it is the people using them and not the guns themselves that are bad. I prefer swords, bows, etc... I mentioned "yet" previously because I see a time that I may have to protect myself because you don't bring a blade to a gun fight. What do I need protection from? The very last thing anyone would think we would need protection from. The government and their increasing push to make this a police state, tyranical country. So yeah, I am definitely all for the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment, which was created NOT to limit its people, but rather to limit the power of the government. Now you know why "they" don't follow the Constitution! P.S. I know how to use a firearm. Ex-Army veteran here. I support the troops yet oppose the wars. Yes, Ron Paul has NOT dropped out! And he will NOT support McCain!
There is a rally July 12th in DC. It is not just about Ron Paul.
It is about FREEDOM, our RIGHTS, and LIBERTY!
It’s time people stop bickering over the table scraps that the government leaves us and start “putting their money where their mouth is” by stepping up and taking back what the government has taken from us.

I am not a gun owner…. yet. I sort of despies guns, though I know it is the people using them and not the guns themselves that are bad. I prefer swords, bows, etc… I mentioned “yet” previously because I see a time that I may have to protect myself because you don’t bring a blade to a gun fight. What do I need protection from? The very last thing anyone would think we would need protection from. The government and their increasing push to make this a police state, tyranical country.

So yeah, I am definitely all for the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment, which was created NOT to limit its people, but rather to limit the power of the government. Now you know why “they” don’t follow the Constitution!

P.S. I know how to use a firearm. Ex-Army veteran here. I support the troops yet oppose the wars.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-24140 Sebastian Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:23:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-24140 He's still in the race? He’s still in the race?

]]> By: LibertyMan http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-24138 LibertyMan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:18:05 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-24138 Vote Ron Paul. Enough said! Vote Ron Paul. Enough said!

]]> By: Ernest http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-23440 Ernest Fri, 16 May 2008 20:30:52 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-23440 Wake up America! Obama tells you what you want to hear. Look at his voting record on guns. The man is not a 2nd Amendment advocate. He wants all you gun owners to stay home in the next election. He wants no repeat of 94! Wake up America! Obama tells you what you want to hear. Look at his voting record on guns. The man is not a 2nd Amendment advocate. He wants all you gun owners to stay home in the next election. He wants no repeat of 94!

]]> By: Bitter http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-21424 Bitter Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:21:41 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-21424 At least go for the <a href="http://www.bobbarr2008.com" rel="nofollow">sane Libertarian candidate</a>. At least go for the sane Libertarian candidate.

]]> By: Edward http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-21391 Edward Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:54:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-21391 Heres the deal. The last time I checked. We have a slew of laws against illegal drugs. The government spends billions in the enforcement of these laws. If the government made guns illegal tomorrow What would make you think that there would not be a black market for guns as in illegal drugs. If they made the manufacture and ownership of guns illegal You think that foreign manufacturers wouldn't ramp up to supply guns to this country? Your average high school kid can tell you or knows someone that can buy drugs You don't think the same thing would happen if you made guns illegal. I live in Chicago, there are areas of this city that are controlled by gangs. There main means of income comes from illegal drugs. They use guns to enforce there turf laws. Not one of these guns are bought legally. Sometimes innocent people get killed in crossfire. When the police try to question the bystanders, no one saw anything. The people then scream for more gun control laws. The problem is them not guns. I'll agree, that there should be better enforcement of the existing laws. The students that bought there guns at VT and Northern both had a history of mental problems. They have laws to prevent people who have mental problems from owning guns but they don't enforce them. Why, because any kind of program the government runs, usually gets convoluted and full of bureaucracy. If they make them illegal or hard to get, the only people that will have them are the people that shouldn't. Heres the deal. The last time I checked. We have a slew of laws against illegal drugs. The government spends billions in the enforcement of these laws. If the government made guns illegal tomorrow What would make you think that there would not be a black market for guns as in illegal drugs. If they made the manufacture and ownership of guns illegal You think that foreign manufacturers wouldn’t ramp up to supply guns to this country? Your average high school kid can tell you or knows someone that can buy drugs You don’t think the same thing would happen if you made guns illegal. I live in Chicago, there are areas of this city that are controlled by gangs. There main means of income comes from illegal drugs. They use guns to enforce there turf laws. Not one of these guns are bought legally. Sometimes innocent people get killed in crossfire. When the police try to question the bystanders, no one saw anything. The people then scream for more gun control laws. The problem is them not guns. I’ll agree, that there should be better enforcement of the existing laws. The students that bought there guns at VT and Northern both had a history of mental problems. They have laws to prevent people who have mental problems from owning guns but they don’t enforce them. Why, because any kind of program the government runs, usually gets convoluted and full of bureaucracy. If they make them illegal or hard to get, the only people that will have them are the people that shouldn’t.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-20648 Brandon Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:17:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-20648 People live in this security blanket that is America and many no longer own guns because they don't feel they need to. Times have changed, we don't hunt for our food anymore, we buy it "unless we just feel like hunting" Unless they live in a rough neighborhood most people don't see groups of bandits running around like they may have in the wild west, so they feel safe without a gun. To many the only time they see anything having to do with guns whatsoever is a newspaper article, or news clip about some school getting shot up. Most people never think the worst is going to happen to them until it does happen to them. If a criminal wants a gun he will buy it illegally on the street just like heroine or cocaine. Entertain this idea, as with more gov control of your right to bear arms it may soon be a reality. A house is broken into in the night. The helpless family with no gun is at the mercy of this possible killer until police can arrive. He can decide to rape your wife in front of you, kill you, take your possessions at gunpoint, or whatever he wants because he has his gun, but oh wait, you could not afford a gun because the government has made them all but nearly unattainable through legal means except to the wealthy. Take away peoples rights to buy handguns affordably and you will have taken away peoples ability to defend themselves against the criminals who dont give a flying f&^k about rather they have the "right" to buy one or not. They will just buy it on the street anyway because a life of crime is the life they choose. You cannot impose your common sense and rules on somone who will not abide by the laws anyway, you only hurt the people who do use their weapons responsibly and buy them legally. This is only one example, lest we not forget that ww2 was not that long ago and japan said a mainland attack on us would be nearly impossible because all our citizens can bear arms. TRUE we may not need our guns every day, but what happens when we do and most of us don't have them. People live in this security blanket that is America and many no longer own guns because they don’t feel they need to. Times have changed, we don’t hunt for our food anymore, we buy it “unless we just feel like hunting” Unless they live in a rough neighborhood most people don’t see groups of bandits running around like they may have in the wild west, so they feel safe without a gun. To many the only time they see anything having to do with guns whatsoever is a newspaper article, or news clip about some school getting shot up. Most people never think the worst is going to happen to them until it does happen to them. If a criminal wants a gun he will buy it illegally on the street just like heroine or cocaine.
Entertain this idea, as with more gov control of your right to bear arms it may soon be a reality. A house is broken into in the night. The helpless family with no gun is at the mercy of this possible killer until police can arrive. He can decide to rape your wife in front of you, kill you, take your possessions at gunpoint, or whatever he wants because he has his gun, but oh wait, you could not afford a gun because the government has made them all but nearly unattainable through legal means except to the wealthy. Take away peoples rights to buy handguns affordably and you will have taken away peoples ability to defend themselves against the criminals who dont give a flying f&^k about rather they have the “right” to buy one or not. They will just buy it on the street anyway because a life of crime is the life they choose. You cannot impose your common sense and rules on somone who will not abide by the laws anyway, you only hurt the people who do use their weapons responsibly and buy them legally. This is only one example, lest we not forget that ww2 was not that long ago and japan said a mainland attack on us would be nearly impossible because all our citizens can bear arms. TRUE we may not need our guns every day, but what happens when we do and most of us don’t have them.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19940 Brandon Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:25:16 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19940 I completely agree. I once heard a quote from someone saying "people don't kill people, guns kill people." Who the hell is this genius? Sure enough he was an advocate of banning weapons, but still, Guns kill people? I do believe that it is the person behind the trigger who is the actual one doing the killing, but I don’t know. Oh wait, I forgot, my shotgun grew a pair of legs last week and ran off. Must have slipped my mind! Again, let’s not fix something that isn’t broken in the first place. Now I’m all for keeping weapons out of the hands of people who don’t deserve them. Let me reiterate, TO PEOPLE WHO DON’T DESERVE THEM! But I am in now way for creating strict bans on weapons or any limitations on what we can have. I really liked the video clips posted by Craig that shows the results of a study that says taking away weapons actually increases crime rates. Maybe out politicians should view this clip. Hell, maybe they should be robbed at gun point while their at home with their families. That might make them change their minds a little. I completely agree. I once heard a quote from someone saying “people don’t kill people, guns kill people.” Who the hell is this genius? Sure enough he was an advocate of banning weapons, but still, Guns kill people? I do believe that it is the person behind the trigger who is the actual one doing the killing, but I don’t know. Oh wait, I forgot, my shotgun grew a pair of legs last week and ran off. Must have slipped my mind! Again, let’s not fix something that isn’t broken in the first place. Now I’m all for keeping weapons out of the hands of people who don’t deserve them. Let me reiterate, TO PEOPLE WHO DON’T DESERVE THEM! But I am in now way for creating strict bans on weapons or any limitations on what we can have. I really liked the video clips posted by Craig that shows the results of a study that says taking away weapons actually increases crime rates. Maybe out politicians should view this clip. Hell, maybe they should be robbed at gun point while their at home with their families. That might make them change their minds a little.

]]> By: casey http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19932 casey Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:30:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19932 Wow! I carry a gun everyday...legally. Yet I have not attacked or shot anyone or gone off on rage based killing sprees...I must not be doing this right. Banning guns is just one step closer to a tryanny. If you fear guns irrationally, go see a therapist and get out of my damn life! It's funny when a guy kills a bunch of people with a gun, the gun gets blamed and banned, yet when a guy drives into a bunch of people the car is never blammed or banned. You gun grabbers are weak idiots who fear tools. Grow up and come to terms with the facts and maybe read up on some guns so you don't seem so ignorant. Why don't we just give in all our guns to the gov't, let crimianls do whatever they want, and act happy about it? Oh wait, that would make us England... Hey maybe when the 2nd amendment is gone, they can take our 1st, then we won't be able to post complaints about the injustices. From there it can just grow worse until we are yet again stuck in a tryanny. Yeah that sounds awesome! I normally try not to pick on retards but some of you gun grabbers just deserve so much worse. Wow! I carry a gun everyday…legally. Yet I have not attacked or shot anyone or gone off on rage based killing sprees…I must not be doing this right.

Banning guns is just one step closer to a tryanny. If you fear guns irrationally, go see a therapist and get out of my damn life! It’s funny when a guy kills a bunch of people with a gun, the gun gets blamed and banned, yet when a guy drives into a bunch of people the car is never blammed or banned.

You gun grabbers are weak idiots who fear tools. Grow up and come to terms with the facts and maybe read up on some guns so you don’t seem so ignorant.

Why don’t we just give in all our guns to the gov’t, let crimianls do whatever they want, and act happy about it? Oh wait, that would make us England…

Hey maybe when the 2nd amendment is gone, they can take our 1st, then we won’t be able to post complaints about the injustices. From there it can just grow worse until we are yet again stuck in a tryanny. Yeah that sounds awesome!

I normally try not to pick on retards but some of you gun grabbers just deserve so much worse.

]]> By: Ralph http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19872 Ralph Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:56:11 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19872 My family once lived in a Eastern Europe where there were very strict gun control laws, only the police or military could use/own any kind of firearm. My parent's family during the Holocaust where wiped out. Millions of unarmed civlians murdered in less than 10 years... 6 million Jews and 7 million others. My parents, survivors who came to America as refugees were strongly opposed to gun control and in fact were opposed the the Gun Control act of 1968. Clearly gun crimes shot up dramatically until the 1990's when many gun control laws were reformed. In fact over 40 states now have unrestriced carry laws on the books and felonious crimes have dropped by record numbers. I truly believe those who support gun control are either, emotionally disturbed, ignorant or have an agenda simular to those who support genocide. In a free society there are risks, there are no greater risk than to trust government in a sheeple society. For Obama's remarks and beliefs in stringent gun control saddens me. I feel for crime victims, however the right to keep and bear arms is a necessity in a free society. Yes we need change but no laws which bind the hands of the law abiding. My family once lived in a Eastern Europe where there were very strict gun control laws, only the police or military could use/own any kind of firearm. My parent’s family during the Holocaust where wiped out. Millions of unarmed civlians murdered in less than 10 years… 6 million Jews and 7 million others. My parents, survivors who came to America as refugees were strongly opposed to gun control and in fact were opposed the the Gun Control act of 1968. Clearly gun crimes shot up dramatically until the 1990’s when many gun control laws were reformed. In fact over 40 states now have unrestriced carry laws on the books and felonious crimes have dropped by record numbers.

I truly believe those who support gun control are either, emotionally disturbed, ignorant or have an agenda simular to those who support genocide.

In a free society there are risks, there are no greater risk than to trust government in a sheeple society.

For Obama’s remarks and beliefs in stringent gun control saddens me. I feel for crime victims, however the right to keep and bear arms is a necessity in a free society.

Yes we need change but no laws which bind the hands of the law abiding.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19420 Brandon Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:07:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19420 Well said Craig. I have been saying the exact same thing ever since I heard of the idea of "gun control." There are millions upon millions of good citizens in the U.S. who own weapons and abide by the law. Only a VERY small fraction of people who own weapons are criminals. Just as with drugs, if you take weapons away from everyone, crooks will still get there hands on them and then they will be able to do whatever the hell they want without anyone (except maybe the police) stopping them. What would stop them from breaking into someone’s house and stealing their possessions and even killing them? I believe they should concentrate a little more of their time on trying to keep drugs out of the hands of Americans (especially youth). Keep the gun laws the way they have been and let’s focus on larger goals shall we? Well said Craig. I have been saying the exact same thing ever since I heard of the idea of “gun control.” There are millions upon millions of good citizens in the U.S. who own weapons and abide by the law. Only a VERY small fraction of people who own weapons are criminals. Just as with drugs, if you take weapons away from everyone, crooks will still get there hands on them and then they will be able to do whatever the hell they want without anyone (except maybe the police) stopping them. What would stop them from breaking into someone’s house and stealing their possessions and even killing them? I believe they should concentrate a little more of their time on trying to keep drugs out of the hands of Americans (especially youth). Keep the gun laws the way they have been and let’s focus on larger goals shall we?

]]> By: craig http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19391 craig Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:52:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19391 Check this video with john stossel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ Check this video with john stossel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

]]> By: craig http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19389 craig Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:31:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19389 yamamoto, the japanese admiral that planned pearl habor and was the brightest bulb in the japanese tree, said "mainland america can't be invaded, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". i always find it interesting that democrats are all for protecting the right of free speech and search warrants for police, but want to remove on of man's most basic rights; the right to protect himself and his family. how do democrats intend to ban these guns anyway? they can't even keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons, so what's the point of more laws? for all those total ban nuts, there is a total ban on narcotics in the U.S., and yet we get cocaine from S. America. what do they think would happen with guns, that crooks would just roll over and play nice? thinking that is worse than not knowing the ammo capacity on a Glock. finally, i would like to point out that the first battle to create this country was when British troops tried to take stockpiled arms from Massachusetts militia. the founders wanted citizens to have arms to protect against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, and for those that don't think that its possible for the government to become "Big Brother", i would like to point out that Hitler was legally elected, and one of the first things he did was disarm those he would later kill. on a side note, what do you guys think of the ruger p-89? i'm thinking about getting one, especially with the impending democrat doomsday yamamoto, the japanese admiral that planned pearl habor and was the brightest bulb in the japanese tree, said “mainland america can’t be invaded, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass”. i always find it interesting that democrats are all for protecting the right of free speech and search warrants for police, but want to remove on of man’s most basic rights; the right to protect himself and his family. how do democrats intend to ban these guns anyway? they can’t even keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons, so what’s the point of more laws? for all those total ban nuts, there is a total ban on narcotics in the U.S., and yet we get cocaine from S. America. what do they think would happen with guns, that crooks would just roll over and play nice? thinking that is worse than not knowing the ammo capacity on a Glock. finally, i would like to point out that the first battle to create this country was when British troops tried to take stockpiled arms from Massachusetts militia. the founders wanted citizens to have arms to protect against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, and for those that don’t think that its possible for the government to become “Big Brother”, i would like to point out that Hitler was legally elected, and one of the first things he did was disarm those he would later kill.
on a side note, what do you guys think of the ruger p-89? i’m thinking about getting one, especially with the impending democrat doomsday

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-19035 Steve Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:51:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-19035 Well, one more weasel off the bus. Too bad this put McCain in the drivers seat. No chance he beats a demoncrat. Not unless he can find a VP candidate with some serious pull... ...WHO ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THE SECOND AMENDMENT! Well, one more weasel off the bus. Too bad this put McCain in the drivers seat. No chance he beats a demoncrat. Not unless he can find a VP candidate with some serious pull… …WHO ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18932 Steve Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:25:29 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18932 Brandon...to answer your question. The only 2 candidates that are FOR SURE pro 2nd amendment, are Ron Paul, and Mike Huckabee. Mitt Romney CLAIMS to be pro gun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-UQG7k1uX0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8M3Ht28fd8&NR=1 I don't think so Mitt....sorry. John McCain... You'll find this interesting.... http://www.gunowners.org/mcv106.htm ...who knows. Looks like not so pro gun to me. Brandon…to answer your question. The only 2 candidates that are FOR SURE pro 2nd amendment, are Ron Paul, and Mike Huckabee. Mitt Romney CLAIMS to be pro gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-UQG7k1uX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8M3Ht28fd8&NR=1

I don’t think so Mitt….sorry.

John McCain…

You’ll find this interesting….

http://www.gunowners.org/mcv106.htm

…who knows. Looks like not so pro gun to me.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18929 Brandon Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:10:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18929 If they want to ban weapons, they mise well ban alcohol as well. Alcohol kills just as many people as guns do. And I am for damn sure that those babblin politicians love their alcohol. Maybe if they had to give up something they knew and loved, they might change their minds. On the other hand, maybe not. As for getting mad as hell and letting our representatives know..that is definately what needs to be done. We need to let them know that they shouldn't mess with something that has been our right for over 200 years. If they want to ban weapons, they mise well ban alcohol as well. Alcohol kills just as many people as guns do. And I am for damn sure that those babblin politicians love their alcohol. Maybe if they had to give up something they knew and loved, they might change their minds. On the other hand, maybe not.

As for getting mad as hell and letting our representatives know..that is definately what needs to be done. We need to let them know that they shouldn’t mess with something that has been our right for over 200 years.

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18926 Steve Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:56:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18926 Brandon...they have the power, they don't care what you think. Guns are bad, so lets make everyone feel good and BAN them. My advice to everyone is now is the time to get MAD AS HELL. You WILL NOT ban rifles of ANY kind. You WILL NOT ban ANY pistol of ANY kind. IT IS TIME TO DEFEND YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT. Let your representative know who you are! Whether they are demoncrat, or republicrat! We the people WILL NOT allow the second amendment to die! For whatever the reason! Brandon…they have the power, they don’t care what you think. Guns are bad, so lets make everyone feel good and BAN them. My advice to everyone is now is the time to get MAD AS HELL. You WILL NOT ban rifles of ANY kind. You WILL NOT ban ANY pistol of ANY kind.

IT IS TIME TO DEFEND YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT.

Let your representative know who you are! Whether they are demoncrat, or republicrat!

We the people WILL NOT allow the second amendment to die! For whatever the reason!

]]> By: Brandon http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18851 Brandon Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:48:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18851 Sounds to me like everyone needs to vote against Obama. I also hear that Clinton is also an advocate of gun control. These people are the ones who have never seen a gun, held a gun, or shot a gun before in their lives. Who are they to say that they are a bad thing and that we cannot buy them anymore. And with pistols out of the way, what will stop the crime spree from increasing ten fold. I think these politicians need to focus on other areas of interest like health care and the economy and leave guns out of this. Does anybody know which presidential canidate is against gun control? Sounds to me like everyone needs to vote against Obama. I also hear that Clinton is also an advocate of gun control. These people are the ones who have never seen a gun, held a gun, or shot a gun before in their lives. Who are they to say that they are a bad thing and that we cannot buy them anymore. And with pistols out of the way, what will stop the crime spree from increasing ten fold. I think these politicians need to focus on other areas of interest like health care and the economy and leave guns out of this. Does anybody know which presidential canidate is against gun control?

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18820 Steve Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:26:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18820 Also...Y'all might like this. Its kinda like the whole Obama Glock 19 thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryCe4yoRVaA Also…Y’all might like this. Its kinda like the whole Obama Glock 19 thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryCe4yoRVaA

]]> By: Steve http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/04/22/barack-obama-bringing-gun-control-back/comment-page-1/#comment-18819 Steve Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:21:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=526#comment-18819 In Texas, you are not allowed to carry inside public offices such as schools, state buildings, churches, any buisness in which %51 of their income comes from alcohol. You are also not allowed to carry into any location in which it is posted at request of the owner or resident not to carry. Interesting side fact. Federal Law states no firearms are allowed within 1000 of a school (under most circumstances), but Texas law only forbids entry into a school, and only states that an individual may be punished for comitting a violent crime with a firearm within 300 (maybe 500) feet of a school. As for China, nukes, and gunowners... True, we've got nukes, China has the ability to shoot our satalites out of orbit, not to mention even if you killed 200 million chinese in a counter attack.... I doubt all of them would be millitary. This is where the Class 3 dude with the M-60 and his basement (not to mention supplies) comes in handy. Oh, by the way...considering the fact that the four main names in the running for President are McCain, Romney, Clinton, and Obama... ...whatever was on that ban list...you know the one that expired 4 years ago, that you don't have yet.....I suggest you buy. Hi-cap mags, AR's, AK's, SKS's...if it is Obama...ANY SEMI AUTO PISTOL. I also suggest everyone set up an NFA trust before you can't do that either. In Texas, you are not allowed to carry inside public offices such as schools, state buildings, churches, any buisness in which %51 of their income comes from alcohol. You are also not allowed to carry into any location in which it is posted at request of the owner or resident not to carry.

Interesting side fact. Federal Law states no firearms are allowed within 1000 of a school (under most circumstances), but Texas law only forbids entry into a school, and only states that an individual may be punished for comitting a violent crime with a firearm within 300 (maybe 500) feet of a school.

As for China, nukes, and gunowners… True, we’ve got nukes, China has the ability to shoot our satalites out of orbit, not to mention even if you killed 200 million chinese in a counter attack…. I doubt all of them would be millitary. This is where the Class 3 dude with the M-60 and his basement (not to mention supplies) comes in handy.

Oh, by the way…considering the fact that the four main names in the running for President are McCain, Romney, Clinton, and Obama…

…whatever was on that ban list…you know the one that expired 4 years ago, that you don’t have yet…..I suggest you buy. Hi-cap mags, AR’s, AK’s, SKS’s…if it is Obama…ANY SEMI AUTO PISTOL.

I also suggest everyone set up an NFA trust before you can’t do that either.

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