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AHSA Astroturfing NRA Convention
Posted by: Sebastian on 
Apr 13th, 2007 | 
Filed under: Anti-Gun Folks, NRA Convention
The American Hunters and Shooters Association has paid people to stand outside the NRA convention with signs. I’ll try to get pictures later. This following up on the announcement that they will support Bloomberg’s coalition of anti-gun mayors. You might notice AHSA has bought ad space on that article as well, though it doesn’t come up every time. Keep reloading.
Apparently AHSA is also running an invitation only press conference. One wonders what it takes to get an invitation, but I’m guessing only sympathetic media are allowed in.
UPDATE: The Ten Ring has a pic of the AHSA protesters, who were gone by the time I got back down there with a camera.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:32 am
[...] Sebastian: The American Hunters and Shooters Association has paid people to stand outside the NRA convention with signs. Ill try to get pictures later. This following up on the announcement that they will support Bloombergs coalition of anti-gun mayors. You might notice AHSA has bought ad space on that article as well, though it doesnt come up every time. Keep reloading. [...]
April 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
I find it interesting that they had to pay people to protest. That doesn’t really show much of a foundation of support, in my opinion.
April 13th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
[...] The other Sebastian is at the NRA convention, the lucky bastid! Sounds like he and Bitter are having a good time. Wish I could have made it. [...]
April 13th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
[...] Update: Needless to say, the NY Times also hasn’t mentioned that, as Sebastion at Snowflakes in Hell points out, the AHSA is paying people to protest the NRA convention! [...]
April 13th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
This is copied from The Joyce Foundation grant list:
Mayors Fund to Advance New York City
New York, NY
Amount: $175,000.00
Length: 1 year
“To organize a coalition of mayors from around the country to promote national, state, and local policies, litigation, and law enforcement strategies aimed at reducing the flow of illegal guns into cities.”
Here is the URL for The Joyce Foundation:
http://www.joycefdn.org/
Go there, click the Grant List tab and click Gun Violence on the drop down program catagory menu.
This is one of the reasons Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states remaining without RTC.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Joyce is a real problem for us. BTW, Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states without any permitting process. There are still a lot of states that aren’t right-to-carry. Personally, I prefer the term “shall-issue”. There are only two right-to-carry states, and those are Vermont and Alaska.
April 14th, 2007 at 11:38 am
Um, was there something wrong with my comment “Um, do you have any proof orf this, or links to someone who does”? If you don’t got proof that they are actually paying people, then this is nothing more than rumour-mongering, something that should be beneath us as pro-gun-rights activists.
April 14th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
It might have gotten nabbed by the spam filter. I talked to someone of reputation who talked to them, and the press conference definitely happened. Those aren’t rumors. The only rumor was about Mayor Mike showing up that didn’t end up being true.
April 16th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Hmmm, it looked to me like it got posted, and then was removed…
This person of reputation spoke to the protesters, and the protesters claimed that they had been paid by the AHSA to “protest” the NRA Convention? It would be real nice if there were some financial records on that.
As for the “press conference”, any idea on who all was “invited”?
April 16th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Well it was never posted, since I also monitor the comments pretty closely, too. It just got caught in spam most likely.
Good luck getting financial records. You won’t. It’s not likely a big enough expense that they would have to report on the Form 990. Even if it was that big, they probably wouldn’t label it “Fake Protestors in St. Louis” and it wouldn’t be available for another year at best.
The protestor told this person of reputation that he was being paid. What more do you want that’s remotely reasonable or lawful to obtain?
As for the press conference, you can see video of NRANews trying to get in on the NRANews site in the 2007 Annual Meeting session. I hope that the recording of the president of AHSA saying they were having a press conference is enough evidence for you. I mean, it’s not a financial record or anything…
April 16th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Yeah, I don’t delete posts on purpose. If something did happen to it, I assure you it was an accident.
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