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	<title>Comments on: Bradys Bad Mouthing Good Gun Shops</title>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/02/16/bradys-bad-mouthing-good-gun-shops/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian~  I&#039;m a college student working on a paper about Gun liability lawsuits relating ot the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.  I was wondering if you are aware of any gun ownership statistics particularly for Bucks County. (My paper is to &quot;write our Congressman&quot;)  If you can give me any help it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian~  I&#8217;m a college student working on a paper about Gun liability lawsuits relating ot the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.  I was wondering if you are aware of any gun ownership statistics particularly for Bucks County. (My paper is to &#8220;write our Congressman&#8221;)  If you can give me any help it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: straightarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>straightarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this is true, but I would think one test of strawman would be whether the actual purchaser was reimbursed for the cost of the weapon by the end recipient.  If so, straw purchase, if not, gift. That would be my take on it. perhaps it makes too much sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is true, but I would think one test of strawman would be whether the actual purchaser was reimbursed for the cost of the weapon by the end recipient.  If so, straw purchase, if not, gift. That would be my take on it. perhaps it makes too much sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/02/16/bradys-bad-mouthing-good-gun-shops/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to keep them in mind next time I&#039;m in the market.  Definitely after this, they deserve to have some of my money headed their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to keep them in mind next time I&#8217;m in the market.  Definitely after this, they deserve to have some of my money headed their way.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/02/16/bradys-bad-mouthing-good-gun-shops/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a rifle at Tanners almost two years ago.  It is a reputable operation with a courteous and professional staff.  If you live near Bucks County and are in the market for a firearm, I can highly recommend them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a rifle at Tanners almost two years ago.  It is a reputable operation with a courteous and professional staff.  If you live near Bucks County and are in the market for a firearm, I can highly recommend them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/02/16/bradys-bad-mouthing-good-gun-shops/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One big problem is that it&#039;s hard to define just what a straw man sale is.

I buy a gun and give it to someone as a gift ... that&#039;s OK.

I buy a gun &quot;for&quot; someone else ... that&#039;s forbidden.

Hard to see a clear line between the two, and ATF itself has tried without too much success to define it. At one point they said that the line was whether the ultimate recipient could not legally possess (note possess, not buy from a dealer, because the underage can&#039;t buy from a dealer but can possess). It was a practical dividing line, but hard to reconcile logically with the statute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big problem is that it&#8217;s hard to define just what a straw man sale is.</p>
<p>I buy a gun and give it to someone as a gift &#8230; that&#8217;s OK.</p>
<p>I buy a gun &#8220;for&#8221; someone else &#8230; that&#8217;s forbidden.</p>
<p>Hard to see a clear line between the two, and ATF itself has tried without too much success to define it. At one point they said that the line was whether the ultimate recipient could not legally possess (note possess, not buy from a dealer, because the underage can&#8217;t buy from a dealer but can possess). It was a practical dividing line, but hard to reconcile logically with the statute.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the Instalanche!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the Instalanche!</p>
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		<title>By: The Bitch Girls :: Bloglines Still Not Fixing Problem, But I Have a Solution</title>
		<link>http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2007/02/16/bradys-bad-mouthing-good-gun-shops/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bitch Girls :: Bloglines Still Not Fixing Problem, But I Have a Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - He&#8217;s got a great post and link to a story about a gun shop that the Brady Bunch unfairly accused of making illegal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; He&#8217;s got a great post and link to a story about a gun shop that the Brady Bunch unfairly accused of making illegal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: straightarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>straightarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t you think Sarah would know better?  Didn&#039;t she defend her purchase of gun she gave to her son as a gift? Why! I believe she did. How &#039;bout dat.

And she got all irate about being questioned about it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you think Sarah would know better?  Didn&#8217;t she defend her purchase of gun she gave to her son as a gift? Why! I believe she did. How &#8217;bout dat.</p>
<p>And she got all irate about being questioned about it too.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; When gun shops do good</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; When gun shops do good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership embarasses itself: Which is what happened last month when the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence released a report, “Shady Dealings: Illegal Gun Trafficking from Licensed Gun Dealers.” Tanner’s store was featured as one of the scurrilous. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent letter!</description>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent this to Melissa:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Dear Melissa,

As a regular reader of your newspaper, and long time sport shooter, I was pleased to read your article &quot;After a sting, a gun dealer gets stung&quot;, which I felt was a balanced report on the topic of straw purchases.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;re aware that straw purchasing is a serious problem, and I was happy to see you highlight the sportsman&#039;s community working with law enforcement to try to deal with the problem.

The vast majority of hunters and sport shooters are concerned with ensuring that the laws against straw purchasing are enforced, and that we keep firearms out of the hands of the criminally irresponsible.  Your article was certainly a nice contrast to much of the other reporting your newspaper does on the topic of firearms.  Keep up the good work!

Sincerely,

Sebastian
Langhorne, PA
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No need to correct the minor error in law.  It was a good faith effort, and straw purchasing is a bit of a legal technicality I wouldn&#039;t expect someone not verse in the law to understand.  It&#039;s important that reporters get praise when they do good articles, even if it also gives the other side.  What we want is for reporters to be fair, we can&#039;t expect them to be pro-gun all the time.  They deserve a pat on the back when they meet that standard.

And I know the more extreme among us will point out that I&#039;ve often complained about the &quot;enforce the existing laws&quot; mantra catching otherwise law abiding people in their net, and that is a problem, but to be honest, I have no problems with the government disbarring violent felons from having access to firearms, nor do I think it runs afoul of the constitution.  I will agree that the current &quot;felon in possession&quot; statutes have issues currently, and the legal net on this issue snares far too many people who are not violent individuals, but the basic idea I think is sound, and I support gun dealers working with law enforcement to try to catch the boneheads who are buying guns for violent gang members.  That&#039;s something that I think is properly against the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent this to Melissa:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Dear Melissa,</p>
<p>As a regular reader of your newspaper, and long time sport shooter, I was pleased to read your article &#8220;After a sting, a gun dealer gets stung&#8221;, which I felt was a balanced report on the topic of straw purchases.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re aware that straw purchasing is a serious problem, and I was happy to see you highlight the sportsman&#8217;s community working with law enforcement to try to deal with the problem.</p>
<p>The vast majority of hunters and sport shooters are concerned with ensuring that the laws against straw purchasing are enforced, and that we keep firearms out of the hands of the criminally irresponsible.  Your article was certainly a nice contrast to much of the other reporting your newspaper does on the topic of firearms.  Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Sebastian<br />
Langhorne, PA
</p></blockquote>
<p>No need to correct the minor error in law.  It was a good faith effort, and straw purchasing is a bit of a legal technicality I wouldn&#8217;t expect someone not verse in the law to understand.  It&#8217;s important that reporters get praise when they do good articles, even if it also gives the other side.  What we want is for reporters to be fair, we can&#8217;t expect them to be pro-gun all the time.  They deserve a pat on the back when they meet that standard.</p>
<p>And I know the more extreme among us will point out that I&#8217;ve often complained about the &#8220;enforce the existing laws&#8221; mantra catching otherwise law abiding people in their net, and that is a problem, but to be honest, I have no problems with the government disbarring violent felons from having access to firearms, nor do I think it runs afoul of the constitution.  I will agree that the current &#8220;felon in possession&#8221; statutes have issues currently, and the legal net on this issue snares far too many people who are not violent individuals, but the basic idea I think is sound, and I support gun dealers working with law enforcement to try to catch the boneheads who are buying guns for violent gang members.  That&#8217;s something that I think is properly against the law.</p>
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